Lately Valve have been of the opinion that their users are a heard of
sheep with absolutely no self-intuition.

As was said before and will be again, that attitude will be the death
of Valve and it's games.

- Jay


Quoting Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Intrusive? Make the font a little smaller maybe?

If it's abused it's the users choice to leave the server.

- voogru.


-----Original Message-----
From: David Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 10:28 PM
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Downloadables Bug? VALVE?

I never knew that text could be so intrusive.  Is it:

   a) The colors (think of the children!),
   b) The letters themselves (which could, on occasion, be combined to
form words), or,
   c) The fact that they can be arbitrarily positioned?

There's already a way to do "b" (white, centered), so I'm guessing there
must be something abjectly heinous about the other two.  If such is the
case, why not add something for coloring but not positioning, or
something for positioning but not coloring?

    ---David Anderson
    http://www.bailopan.net/

Yahn Bernier wrote:
Alfred and I discussed and there was too much concern that it would be
abused so we're going to leave it out for now.  I think there are other
ways for plugins to present info to clients that aren't as intrusive.

Yahn


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LDuke
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:40 PM
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Downloadables Bug? VALVE?

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] The downloadables bug
fix is something a lot of plugin developers and server admins are very
happy about having. Thank you.

What about the "CenterPrintText font definition is missing from
ClientScheme.res" ?  Did that just not make it in, or is there some
other reason that it won't be added?

Grant
(L. Duke)



On 2/24/07, Yahn Bernier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Sure

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LDuke
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 6:04 PM
To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Downloadables Bug? VALVE?

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[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Another bug that's
been around for a while:

The CenterPrintText font definition is missing from ClientScheme.res
so that a HudMsg doesn't get displayed.  One of the guys at Turtlerock

said he'd add it to the to-do list months ago. Would it be possible to

add this fix to the next update also?

I've been trying to show a timer in an unobtrusive place on the screen

for a CAL match plugin for DODS, but there is really no way to do this

right now.
The plugin interface doesn't seem to obey the time parameter so can't
be updated (plus it prints right on top of the flag status icons), the

center say and hint text are too much in the way of the player's view.

It would be an easy fix, just need to add the font definition for
"CenterPrintText" to the ClientScheme.res file for CSS and DODS.

Thanks,

Grant
(L. Duke)

P.S. This is the definition I've been using to test but the players
have to download a fixed .res file manually:

        CenterPrintText
        {
            "1"
            {
                "name"        "Trebuchet MS"
                "tall"        "24"
                "weight"    "900"
                "range"        "0x0000 0x007F"    //    Basic Latin
                "antialias" "1"
                "additive"    "1"
            }
        }

'

On 2/24/07, Yahn Bernier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No ETA, probably in the next few weeks though.

Yahn



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