Heh. Is it too early to make this thread into a fanboy rant about how every other engine pales in comparison to Source? If not, I want to start it. But yes, I agree. I'm just not a big fan of people who think they're "owed" something.
2008/5/18 Ben Mears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Here's my opinion. > > Valve doesn't owe us anything but it is in their best interest to keep us > happy as we are the ones who promote and further the Source Engine. After > all, where did Counter Strike, Team Fortress, and Portal originate from? I > think Valve has done a pretty good job of supporting us modders but it's > true that there is always more they could do for us. Maybe the people who > are unhappy with Valve should move on to other engines, Unreal 3 or > CryEngine 2 for example, see how those engines compare to Source and then > re-evaluate their opinons. > > Again, that's just my two cents. > > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Which would obviously reduce the longevity of their games. > > > > ~~ Ondra > > > > On 18.05.08 10:16 Uhr, Daniel Glenn wrote: > > > We don't deserve a damned thing. Valve could have simply not released > the > > > source code at all. > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM, John<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> Come on Valve :D All us modders deserve that fixed code in good time > :\ > > Its > > >> been a few months > > >> > > >> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Tom Leighton< > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > >>> That was a fix from Tony Sergi (VALVE) > > >>> > > >>> Tom Edwards wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> That /was/ a fix from Valve. > > >>>> > > >>>> Janek wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>>> @Benjamin and Tom> I saw this post as it was an answer to a > question > > >>>>> > > >>> from > > >>> > > >>>>> me. But this fix is for sratch sdk (different in hl2mp) and also I > > >>>>> > > >>> prefer a > > >>> > > >>>>> fix frm Valva as there could have other less noticeable prediction > > >>>>> > > >>> issue. > > >>> > > >>>>> 2008/5/17 Mikie<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> For the last four years, Valve has needed to hire more people. > > >>>>>> They have the budget considering the success they've had, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I never understood why Valve management is so reluctant to do so. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Daniel > > >>>>>> Glenn > > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:14 AM > > >>>>>> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Orange Box SDK Code Update??? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Obviously, they're not working on at least two retail games right > > now > > >>>>>> > > >>> or > > >>> > > >>>>>> anything. Be patient is my advice. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Joel R.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >>>>>> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> We've been patiently waiting for about 5 months now waiting on an > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> update to > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> the Source SDK Code. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Major Things Needed: > > >>>>>>> - Updated Source SDK (Scratch Mod/HL2MP) (This should be > finished). > > >>>>>>> - Source Shaders > > >>>>>>> - Particle Editor > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Making effects is crucial to any game. Currently if you switch > to > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> Orange > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Box, you cannot use Shaders or optimized particles (Particle > Editor > > >>>>>>> system). The current SDK is riddled with bugs that have been > fixed > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> but are > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> casually awaiting to be updated in. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> TF2 has received 26 updates since the release of Orange Box SDK. > > >>>>>>> We have received 1 update to Hammer and Engine. > > >>>>>>> We have received 0 updates to the code-base. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> In it's current state, Orange Box SDK is broken. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I and many others would greatly appreciate an immediate update as > > >>>>>>> > > >> soon > > >> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> as > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> possible. Thanks for your time. > > >>>>>>> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
