Alright then, if you're going to be pedantic lets take out Portal and add Day of Defeat. :P
2008/5/18 Tom Leighton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Actually Portal came from another game (not Source/GoldSrc engine based) > but heh :P > > Ben Mears wrote: >> Here's my opinion. >> >> Valve doesn't owe us anything but it is in their best interest to keep us >> happy as we are the ones who promote and further the Source Engine. After >> all, where did Counter Strike, Team Fortress, and Portal originate from? I >> think Valve has done a pretty good job of supporting us modders but it's >> true that there is always more they could do for us. Maybe the people who >> are unhappy with Valve should move on to other engines, Unreal 3 or >> CryEngine 2 for example, see how those engines compare to Source and then >> re-evaluate their opinons. >> >> Again, that's just my two cents. >> >> >> On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:42 AM, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Which would obviously reduce the longevity of their games. >>> >>> ~~ Ondra >>> >>> On 18.05.08 10:16 Uhr, Daniel Glenn wrote: >>> >>>> We don't deserve a damned thing. Valve could have simply not released the >>>> source code at all. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 11:25 AM, John<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Come on Valve :D All us modders deserve that fixed code in good time :\ >>>>> >>> Its >>> >>>>> been a few months >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, May 17, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Tom Leighton< >>>>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> That was a fix from Tony Sergi (VALVE) >>>>>> >>>>>> Tom Edwards wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> That /was/ a fix from Valve. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Janek wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Benjamin and Tom> I saw this post as it was an answer to a question >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> from >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> me. But this fix is for sratch sdk (different in hl2mp) and also I >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> prefer a >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> fix frm Valva as there could have other less noticeable prediction >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2008/5/17 Mikie<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For the last four years, Valve has needed to hire more people. >>>>>>>>> They have the budget considering the success they've had, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I never understood why Valve management is so reluctant to do so. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> >>> Daniel >>> >>>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:14 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Orange Box SDK Code Update??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Obviously, they're not working on at least two retail games right >>>>>>>>> >>> now >>> >>>>>> or >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> anything. Be patient is my advice. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Joel R.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We've been patiently waiting for about 5 months now waiting on an >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> update to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the Source SDK Code. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Major Things Needed: >>>>>>>>>> - Updated Source SDK (Scratch Mod/HL2MP) (This should be finished). >>>>>>>>>> - Source Shaders >>>>>>>>>> - Particle Editor >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Making effects is crucial to any game. Currently if you switch to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Orange >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Box, you cannot use Shaders or optimized particles (Particle Editor >>>>>>>>>> system). The current SDK is riddled with bugs that have been fixed >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but are >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> casually awaiting to be updated in. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> TF2 has received 26 updates since the release of Orange Box SDK. >>>>>>>>>> We have received 1 update to Hammer and Engine. >>>>>>>>>> We have received 0 updates to the code-base. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In it's current state, Orange Box SDK is broken. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I and many others would greatly appreciate an immediate update as >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>> soon >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> possible. Thanks for your time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
