Yes and if you spec you will see this sorta slight dithering to avoid aim
bot detection.
The cross hairs will shake around in a regular pattern ... Its obviously a
way to avoid VAC and it is working right now very well.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roc
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [hlds] VAC Update?

um, no, it's not complete BS!

Regards
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update?


>> When I want to play I go thru 5 servers before I find one w/o Blatant
> hackers.
>
> That's complete BS. I pub at least once a day, and NEVER (and I mean
> EVER, not even in 1.3) did I go into more than 2 pubs in succession
> that had blatant cheaters in them.
>
> Your assumptions are BS as well. 3/4 of the entire CS population,
> cheaters? It's FAR, FAR less than that. You are exaggerating pretty
> much everything you say.
>
> The only possible way I can see you going into 5 servers and having a
> **BLATANT** hacker in every one of them is if you join ONLY insecure
> servers. Why? Because insecure servers basically allow any and every
> cheat to work (and at full potential), period.
>
> You probably don't know this because you've never used cheats before,
> but VAC SEVERELY limits what cheats can do. I've used cheats before
> (hah), and let me tell you the difference.
>
> Insecure Servers: You can practically see people from spawn to spawn
> (wallhack), people are always on screen.
>
> Secure Servers: A lot of times the only time you see someone behind a
> wall is if you see them out in the open first, and then go behind the
> wall. Other times you have to rely on them making noise or moving a
> lot in order to be seen behind the wall. Also, you usually can't see
> them from that far away, and the cheats are limited hugely by this
> (obviously it's still an insanely huge advantage, though).
>
> VAC has more purposes than just catching people cheating, it serves as
> a wallhack block as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike
> Bradley
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:55 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
>
> Yes you are.
> Right now Hackers rule just about any server they want.
>
> Secure servers too.
>
> Most who use hacks are obvious and get banned.
> It's the stealth hackers. The ones who are good at not getting caught.
> The wall hacks and aim bots.
>
>
> When I want to play I go thru 5 servers before I find one w/o Blatant
> hackers.
>
> It's really bad right now.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of K. Mike
>> Bradley
>> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:06 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
>>
>>
>> Lets face it .... VAC has been a total washout.
>> Each VAC update we get gives us four hours of no cheating ... That's
> it.
>> Valve does not have the programming resources to keep up with the
>> hackers who write this stuff for free.
>>
>> All of the anti cheat detections have failed ... The hackers have won.
>>
>
> Wait a minute...am I wrong, or doesn't VAC ban cheaters for one year?
> If this is true, then the cheaters are always being weeded out, right?
> Even when the script kiddies find new cheats not yet detected by VAC,
> they're still banned. Am I missing something?
>
>
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