David has hit the nail on the head, I don't know how many
of you have heard about this site but check out

http://www.steambans.com/

it''s unofficial nothing to do with steam it's self but it works along
the same line as having good honest admins check them out


----- Original Message -----
From: "David Fencik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 1:21 AM
Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update?


> The best cheat prevention is a following of good, honest regulars,
> coupled with a handful of honest admins.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 8:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update?
>
> Lets face it .... VAC has been a total washout.
> Each VAC update we get gives us four hours of no cheating ... That's it.
> Valve does not have the programming resources to keep up with the
> hackers
> who write this stuff for free.
>
> All of the anti cheat detections have failed ... The hackers have won.
>
> We can either set up our servers with a password and invite friends or
> maybe
> we all should hack to make it even.
>
>
> THAT WOULD BE A LAUGH EH????
>
> It would totally ruin any hacks now and in the future if we all used
> them.
>
> Level playing field once again.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper .
> Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [hlds] VAC Update?
>
> [ Converted text/html to text/plain ]
> Is VAC going to get updated anytime soon?
>
> If it is being updated, can it be announced on this list?
>
> Can VAC / Valve allow Cheating Death to be compatible and let server
> administrators decide themselves if they want to hassel of supporting
> 3rd
> part fucntionality or not? Its not like Cheating Death bans anybody, at
> worst it denys people access to your server which is not a major issue
> in
> most cases.
>
> I do not know about the rest of you, but it seems on our VAC Enabled
> servers
> any average idiot can join and look like a professional CS player with
> the
> latest and greatest aimbots, whcih are extremely difficult to pick up
> even
> when viewing the demo in slow motion, if the aimbot is properly
> configured,
> which seems to be most of the time these days.
>
> :(
>
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