Not quite true. If you have a decent router and you set an internal
server as DMZ, it's NIC will have the public IP value. The reason why
it's best to run dual NIC's on a server that faces the public. Keep the
networks separated.

Link

Ryan Brady wrote:
ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

----- Original Message -----
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
power,
you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
server.
At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
console that will give a hint to your problem.

BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they

need

nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting

other

games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server

as

I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.

Somewhat

usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open

or

Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted

all

the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer

why

I
cant Host??




----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Steam page to test ports????  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
make sure you have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support

area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
check them.  Because these are all you need.

-Scott



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
that simple I could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have

you put in

place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent

firewall to allow

direct IP connections.




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup

Properly It is

NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set

up properly.

If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work,

people will be

able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master

server list. I do

not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command

line from there.

It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it

makes it very

hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't

have one. It's

a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I

just wish I

could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.

From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

"if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
If you mean to have your server appear in the master list

at valve: not

relevant

If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
configed/connected)
your server will be added to the master list automatically.
All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
remember why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp,
email).

"Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
the startup line every time it is changed by the ISP"
Now I get it. ^__^
I tested it and that works indeed.

I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at

home. #^_^#

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is

correct, but the

domain would be if you want your server to appeare in

the server list,

so
the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is

hosting the

srcds
box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip

manually in the

startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some

like to make

life
easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a

static ip if your

ISP
doesnt provide it free of charge.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@gerald
In the startup string add:
+ip <external ip>

for example: +ip 123.123.123.123

That should do it.


@jose
..... really, how is a domainname going to tell an

application that

wants
an
*IP* which IP it should use?
You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free

domain like

www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe

is one, there

are
more
but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a

domain instead of

ip
as
well. So that would be your best solution right now.

Hope this info helped out

The Sourcekillaz Team
----- Original Message -----
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if

you DONT wanna

Answer
my Question thean DONT!!

My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that

covered. the problem

is
that
Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to

use my EXTERNAL

IP!!

READ THE POST SHEESH!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Whelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Heard of google dood, sheesh?

anyways..

http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm

--- Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] what do u
mean by u cant host half life? do u get

some sort of

error
? im
behind a router and i can run both a server and

steam and connect.

if
others
want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router

On 06/10/06, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, I
was sent here by the STEAM tech support as

they couldnt

answer my

question so they said to post here.

I read in the STEAM support site that the reason

I cant HOST

HalfLife is

because probally STEAM is using my Internal IP

and it Needs an

Exterenal IP.

My Question is How can I make Steam or Halflife

use my External

IP?? I am

using a D-Link DGL4300 Gaming router and XP Pro

THNX
Gerald
--

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