This is probbaly one of the most truthful statements that has been said time and time again:
"The craziest thing is that the entire server community is willing to help but Valve apparently prefers to go it alone." Valve has one of the most faithful and trusting communities around, we offer our time, services, and even our money to Valve and its products to help make their games and our gaming communities be strong and fruitful. We co-exist, and because of that we are always willing to and would rather help out with betas than get faulty patches. I hope this is one of the last times these kinds of incidents occurs, because as of late, I am reading of more and more server ops just saying to hell with Steam and HLDS altogether and it seems the primary reason is the "big balls" attitude that Valve seems to have with pushing shit down the very same throats of the server ops and the communities that have helped make your company what it is to-date. Its not an encouraging thing to read. - [Me109] PenDragon -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:26 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Multiplayer Update Released What Valve is trying to do is simply not doable. You cannot make updates "required" but not have tested them on every platform they run on. We have all seen this over and over again... Valve issues updates and working servers crash. I'm no trashing Valve... they are exceptionally good at being reactive to the problems their updates create... what they need to be is more proactive. The craziest thing is that the entire server community is willing to help but Valve apparently prefers to go it alone. -----Original Message----- From: Gigabit Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 7:39 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Source Multiplayer Update Released -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I second that. Anyone got a working GarrysMod server after the update?, We run two one Windows 2003 and both are bust. All together now... BETAS HELP TO STOP RELEASES BREAKING SERVERS. _ _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds