I think the real solution is simple. Valve needs to quit limiting the player count to 24.
Let the players decide for themselves if it's too laggy. Quit being the server nanny. "Oh dear honey, a 32 player server might lag your pc so you're not allowed to see 32 player servers". ... "Unless they hacked the engine.dll or wrote a plug-in to show the servers anyhow, then you can play there because those servers are teh uber h4x0rs!!!!!!!" - voogru. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:19 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My host uses Windows and is letting me use the 32 player hack. They even provide it but I dont trust it as they dont always have the most up to date mods... But now I have a 30 slot server. I wonder if its better to just have 2 24 slot servers :P ----- Original Message ---- From: Nephyrin Zey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:26:24 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin This is true, but that would just imply that many 24-man-server owners are not running 32-man servers because they are unable to. There are already enough 32man servers to flood pages of the listing, and those who still wish to run 24 slot servers can do so, so if there are those out there that wish they could run 32x but arn't given the option, wouldn't it be better to let them? It's just a game, after all. - Neph On Feb 11, 2008 9:08 PM, Tony Paloma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But once a plugin is freely available, server hosts will most likely start offering 32 player servers. This was my only concern. Once that happens, I foresee 2/3 or more of all servers becoming 32 players. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nephyrin Zey > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:39 PM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin > > Hiya, > > I'm the bastard who messaged him on IRC about releasing a 32-player > bypass hack. My reasoning is primarily: > A) Anyone that wants to can still get a hacked engine.dll > B) There are already more 32-slot servers than players wish to fill. > This isn't about allowing 32x or not anymore. The only real effect of > releasing a clean plugin to do it would be making it easier on admins > who wouldn't have to wait for a new 'cracked' dll or convoluted > LD_PRELOAD hack on linux, such that 32-slot servers are not exclusive > to the slightly more daring crowd. > > I made the original 32x bypass for linux (the LD_PRELOAD one) so I > could run my own server at 32x, and made it into a plugin simply for > the fun of it. I never got a response on IRC, but if there's any > convincing reasons not to put a plugin out there to do this I'd be > glad to listen > > Of course, it would be better if Valve would just step in and fix this > one way or the other. > > - Neph > Nephyrin AIM > [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN > Feel free to message me > > > On Feb 11, 2008 8:26 PM, Tony Paloma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I meant a plugin, not a hacked engine file > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName! > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:17 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin > > > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Theres already one from battlerealms.cc. I say if you cut off the source you > > dont get anymore 32 slot servers which I wont miss, even though I run one > > lol... Its up to you but if I were you I would keep it private or even sell > > it ;) > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Tony Paloma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 4:48:05 PM > > Subject: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin > > > > > > This > > is > > a > > multipart > > message > > in > > MIME > > format. > > -- > > [ > > Picked > > text/plain > > from > > multipart/alternative > > ] > > So, > > > > > > > > I've > > been > > considering > > releasing > > my > > 32 > > player > > delist > > plugin > > for > > TF2 > > server > > (works > > for > > both > > Windows > > and > > Linux). > > I > > thought > > I > > was > > convinced > > that > > I > > wasn't > > going > > to > > release > > it, > > but > > then, > > somebody > > messages > > me > > on > > IRC > > saying > > he > > is > > contemplating > > the > > same > > thing. > > So, > > should > > such > > a > > plugin > > be > > released > > to > > the > > general > > public? > > I'm > > trying > > to > > get > > some > > opinions > > here > > so > > that > > I > > can > > decide > > once > > and > > for > > all > > whether > > or > > not > > to > > release > > it. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To > > unsubscribe, > > edit > > your > > list > > preferences, > > or > > view > > the > > list > > archives, > > please > > visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > ________ > > Never miss a thing. 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