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I wouldn't call de-listing not stopping.

-tsue

On Feb 12, 2008 2:17 AM, Mike Stiehm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Guys this topic was played out 2 times already. Last time I started it
> Just accept that you need to mod your server to run 32 players and
> be happy that valve is not stopping you.. Really.....matrix
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> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: RE:
> [hlds] 32 player delist plugin> Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 02:39:22 -0500> > I
> think the real solution is simple.> > Valve needs to quit limiting the
> player count to 24.> > Let the players decide for themselves if it's too
> laggy. Quit being the> server nanny.> > "Oh dear honey, a 32 player server
> might lag your pc so you're not allowed> to see 32 player servers".> > ...>
> > "Unless they hacked the engine.dll or wrote a plug-in to show the
> servers> anyhow, then you can play there because those servers are teh uber>
> h4x0rs!!!!!!!"> > > - voogru.> > -----Original Message-----> From:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DontWannaName!> Sent:
> Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:19 AM> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin> > --> [ Picked text/plain from
> multipart/alternative ]> My host uses Windows and is letting me use the 32
> player hack. They even> provide it but I dont trust it as they dont always
> have the most up to date> mods... But now I have a 30 slot server. I wonder
> if its better to just have> 2 24 slot servers :P> > ----- Original Message
> ----> From: Nephyrin Zey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To:
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:26:24 PM>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] 32 player delist plugin> > > This> is> true,> but> that>
> would> just> imply> that> many> 24-man-server> owners> are> not> running>
> 32-man> servers> because> they> are> unable> to.> There> are> already>
> enough> 32man> servers> to> flood> pages> of> the> listing,> and> those>
> who> still> wish> to> run> 24> slot> servers> can> do> so,> so> if> there>
> are> those> out> there> that> wish> they> could> run> 32x> but> arn't>
> given> the> option,> wouldn't> it> be> better> to> let> them?> It's> just>
> a> game,> after> all.> > -> Neph> > On> Feb> 11,> 2008> 9:08> PM,> Tony>
> Paloma> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> >> But> once> a> plugin> is>
> freely> available,> server> hosts> will> most> likely> start> offering> 32>
> player> servers.> This> was> my> only> concern.> Once> that> happens,> I>
> foresee> 2/3> or> more> of> all> servers> becoming> 32> players.> >> >> >>
> -----Original> Message-----> >> From:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On> Behalf> Of> Nephyrin> Zey>
> >> Sent:> Monday,> February> 11,> 2008> 6:39> PM> >> To:>
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Subject:> Re:> [hlds]> 32> player> delist>
> plugin> >> >> Hiya,> >> >> I'm> the> bastard> who> messaged> him> on> IRC>
> about> releasing> a> 32-player> >> bypass> hack.> My> reasoning> is>
> primarily:> >> A)> Anyone> that> wants> to> can> still> get> a> hacked>
> engine.dll> >> B)> There> are> already> more> 32-slot> servers> than>
> players> wish> to> fill.> >> This> isn't> about> allowing> 32x> or> not>
> anymore.> The> only> real> effect> of> >> releasing> a> clean> plugin> to>
> do> it> would> be> making> it> easier> on> admins> >> who> wouldn't> have>
> to> wait> for> a> new> 'cracked'> dll> or> convoluted> >> LD_PRELOAD> hack>
> on> linux,> such> that> 32-slot> servers> are> not> exclusive> >> to> the>
> slightly> more> daring> crowd.> >> >> I> made> the> original> 32x> bypass>
> for> linux> (the> LD_PRELOAD> one)> so> I> >> could> run> my> own> server>
> at> 32x,> and> made> it> into> a> plugin> simply> for> >> the> fun> of> it.>
> I> never> got> a> response> on> IRC,> but> if> there's> any> >> convincing>
> reasons> not> to> put> a> plugin> out> there> to> do> this> I'd> be> >>
> glad> to> listen> >> >> Of> course,> it> would> be> better> if> Valve>
> would> just> step> in> and> fix> this> >> one> way> or> the> other.> >> >>
> -> Neph> >> Nephyrin> AIM> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> MSN> >> Feel> free>
> to> message> me> >> >> >> On> Feb> 11,> 2008> 8:26> PM,> Tony> Paloma> <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:> >> >> I> meant> a> plugin,> not> a>
> hacked> engine> file> >> >> >> >> -----Original> Message-----> >> >> From:>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> On> Behalf> Of> DontWannaName!> >> >>
> Sent:> Monday,> February> 11,> 2008> 6:17> PM> >> >> To:>
> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >> >> >> Subject:> Re:> [hlds]> 32>
> player> delist> plugin> >> >> >> >> --> >> >> [> Picked> text/plain> from>
> multipart/alternative> ]> >> >> Theres> already> one> from>
> battlerealms.cc.> I> say> if> you> cut> off> the> source> you> >> >> dont>
> get> anymore> 32> slot> servers> which> I> wont> miss,> even> though> I>
> run> one> >> >> lol...> Its> up> to> you> but> if> I> were> you> I> would>
> keep> it> private> or> even> sell> >> >> it> ;)> >> >> >> >> ----->
> Original> Message> ----> >> >> From:> Tony> Paloma> <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> >> To:> hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >>
> Sent:> Monday,> February> 11,> 2008> 4:48:05> PM> >> >> Subject:> [hlds]>
> 32> player> delist> plugin> >> >> >> >> >> >> This> >> >> is> >> >> a> >> >>
> multipart> >> >> message> >> >> in> >> >> MIME> >> >> format.> >> >> --> >>
> >> [> >> >> Picked> >> >> text/plain> >> >> from> >> >>
> multipart/alternative> >> >> ]> >> >> So,> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've> >>
> >> been> >> >> considering> >> >> releasing> >> >> my> >> >> 32> >> >>
> player> >> >> delist> >> >> plugin> >> >> for> >> >> TF2> >> >> server> >>
> >> (works> >> >> for> >> >> both> >> >> Windows> >> >> and> >> >> Linux).>
> >> >> I> >> >> thought> >> >> I> >> >> was> >> >> convinced> >> >> that> >>
> >> I> >> >> wasn't> >> >> going> >> >> to> >> >> release> >> >> it,> >> >>
> but> >> >> then,> >> >> somebody> >> >> messages> >> >> me> >> >> on> >> >>
> IRC> >> >> saying> >> >> he> >> >> is> >> >> contemplating> >> >> the> >> >>
> same> >> >> thing.> >> >> So,> >> >> should> >> >> such> >> >> a> >> >>
> plugin> >> >> be> >> >> released> >> >> to> >> >> the> >> >> general> >> >>
> public?> >> >> I'm> >> >> trying> >> >> to> >> >> get> >> >> some> >> >>
> opinions> >> >> here> >> >> so> >> >> that> >> >> I> >> >> can> >> >>
> decide> >> >> once> >> >> and> >> >> for> >> >> all> >> >> whether> >> >>
> or> >> >> not> >> >> to> >> >> release> >> >> it.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> Thanks> >> >> >> >> --> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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