It wasn't vanilla because it was instant respawn (that I can prove) and 
no crits (I can't PROVE it, but the 5 mins. I played there, I didn't see 
1 crit anything).

So no. It isn't vanilla.

If you advertise Vanilla, turn off instant respawn and (if it's off) 
turn on crits.

GOOD DAY SIR!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> and why isnt it vanilla?  because it goes to 25/24 when someone with a 
> reserved slot joins? or that it has hlstatsx?  vanilla to me means that 
> the gameplay is the same as valve intended with respawn times, team size 
> etc.  so why are you calling me an ass?
> 
> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>> I just got off a server (CircleX-Gaming #2 - 209.160.43.166:27015) and 
>> they are listing all the tags including vanilla, but it truly is not.
>>
>> Gheez... What asses.
>>
>> Arg! wrote:
>>   
>>> but this is going to be the same problem we have before, if the telcos dont
>>> put the vanilla tags in for their servers, then the list will be corrupted
>>> and useless for searching.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Leonard L. Church
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>> Really? Are the custom server admins going to argue this point?? Seriously?
>>>>
>>>> Put the Vanilla tag on please. Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Arg! wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>> you can have no filters and sort by tags!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>         
>>>> wrote:
>>>>       
>>>>>> The problem with using no tags is there isn't a way (that I've found so
>>>>>> far)
>>>>>> to have it only display servers with no tags.  You either get all the
>>>>>> servers listed or servers with tags you've added to your filter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Richard Eid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Arg! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> vanilla == no tags, surely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> or only the gamemode tags.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, what we need next is to get this in the Steam server browser, not
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>> just
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> the in game one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be against the idea of servers coming pre-set with a
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> 'Vanilla'
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> tag by default, but only if there aren't any more shenanigans with
>>>>>>>> falsifying the tag info.  For example, John Doe decides to get a
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> server
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> going, so he downloads it, adds some custom gameplay elements, then
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> plug-in to keep the server with the only tag of 'Vanilla', while
>>>>>>>> short/insta-spawn and low gravity, among other things, remain in play
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For everyone who is going to play by the rules, what do you feel
>>>>>>>>               
>>>> should
>>>>       
>>>>>>>> become of those that skirt the system now?  Would delisting be a fair
>>>>>>>> solution?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those that will NOT be properly using tags as intended, why not?
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>  In
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> first e-mail in this thread, I posted a link to a thread in the Steam
>>>>>>>> forums
>>>>>>>> in which a server op said that he's not going to use tags purely to
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> more traffic to his server.  How do you all feel about this now?  As a
>>>>>>>> player, it's frustrating because it's basically a glimpse into the
>>>>>>>> near-future and that glimpse tells me it's not going to get any better
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> as
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> I'm sure he won't be the only one who will do it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess there's going to be some falsifying of the tag info no matter
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> happens, but it'd be nice to keep it to a minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, for everyone that's responded here, thanks for making me feel
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>> about going into the server browser now.  It looks like it's not going
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> that difficult to find the games I am looking for, save for the few
>>>>>>>> holdouts
>>>>>>>> who don't care about tricking people into connecting to their servers.
>>>>>>>> Thank you all again for your time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Richard Eid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, SakeFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>> i was kinda surprised that when you turn cheats on it doesn't auto
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> IMO Valve should quickly add a "auto-tagging" feature like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>> There is already an auto tagging system. It's working like before.
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>> If
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> change some parameters, like maxplayers, crits, respawn times, it
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>> autmatically added to sv_tags.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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