we've never had instant respawn or no-crits enabled, we've run default servers since the beginning. you can check hlsw and see what plugins we are running and what respawn and crit settings we have. you just choose to make up a story about my server and didn't realize I belonged to this list. we also don't play custom maps either which I would take as being vanilla. so stop making crap up so you have something to cry about and protest.
Leonard L. Church wrote: > Vanilla to me is standard rules of play. Maps don't matter IMHO. > > Instant respawn is NOT part of the rules of play IMHO as well. > > That's the issue. Perhaps I'm coming down to hard on a server owner who > advertises Vanilla with Instant Respawn on by calling him an ass, but I > can also see several owners complaining about traffic and doing the > exact same thing screaming about how those servers without vanilla tags > are "Doomed to fail". > > *sighs* I am sorry I called Dan an ass. Perhaps though you can remove > the tags you don't actually use from the server? > > Dustin Wyatt wrote: > >> That's the problem with "vanilla". I'd call my server vanilla, but we >> do run custom maps, so others wouldn't. >> >> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> and why isnt it vanilla? because it goes to 25/24 when someone with a >>> reserved slot joins? or that it has hlstatsx? vanilla to me means that >>> the gameplay is the same as valve intended with respawn times, team size >>> etc. so why are you calling me an ass? >>> >>> Leonard L. Church wrote: >>> >>>> I just got off a server (CircleX-Gaming #2 - 209.160.43.166:27015) and >>>> they are listing all the tags including vanilla, but it truly is not. >>>> >>>> Gheez... What asses. >>>> >>>> Arg! wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> but this is going to be the same problem we have before, if the telcos >>>>> dont >>>>> put the vanilla tags in for their servers, then the list will be corrupted >>>>> and useless for searching. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Leonard L. Church >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Really? Are the custom server admins going to argue this point?? >>>>>> Seriously? >>>>>> >>>>>> Put the Vanilla tag on please. Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Arg! wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> you can have no filters and sort by tags! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem with using no tags is there isn't a way (that I've found so >>>>>>>> far) >>>>>>>> to have it only display servers with no tags. You either get all the >>>>>>>> servers listed or servers with tags you've added to your filter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Richard Eid >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Arg! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> vanilla == no tags, surely. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> or only the gamemode tags. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now, what we need next is to get this in the Steam server browser, not >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the in game one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be against the idea of servers coming pre-set with a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 'Vanilla' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> tag by default, but only if there aren't any more shenanigans with >>>>>>>>>> falsifying the tag info. For example, John Doe decides to get a >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> server >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> going, so he downloads it, adds some custom gameplay elements, then >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> uses >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> plug-in to keep the server with the only tag of 'Vanilla', while >>>>>>>>>> short/insta-spawn and low gravity, among other things, remain in play >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For everyone who is going to play by the rules, what do you feel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> should >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> become of those that skirt the system now? Would delisting be a fair >>>>>>>>>> solution? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For those that will NOT be properly using tags as intended, why not? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> first e-mail in this thread, I posted a link to a thread in the Steam >>>>>>>>>> forums >>>>>>>>>> in which a server op said that he's not going to use tags purely to >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bring >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> more traffic to his server. How do you all feel about this now? As >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> player, it's frustrating because it's basically a glimpse into the >>>>>>>>>> near-future and that glimpse tells me it's not going to get any >>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure he won't be the only one who will do it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess there's going to be some falsifying of the tag info no matter >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> happens, but it'd be nice to keep it to a minimum. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, for everyone that's responded here, thanks for making me feel >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> about going into the server browser now. It looks like it's not >>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>> that difficult to find the games I am looking for, save for the few >>>>>>>>>> holdouts >>>>>>>>>> who don't care about tricking people into connecting to their >>>>>>>>>> servers. >>>>>>>>>> Thank you all again for your time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Richard Eid >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, SakeFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> i was kinda surprised that when you turn cheats on it doesn't auto >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> tag >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO Valve should quickly add a "auto-tagging" feature like that. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is already an auto tagging system. It's working like before. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> change some parameters, like maxplayers, crits, respawn times, it >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> autmatically added to sv_tags. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>>>> Chillidog Systems - Re-inventing the wheel for the sake of all >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> humanity! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
