Having had just played on this server for 5 minutes,  It struck me as 
vanilla gameplay, but not a vanilla server.

I had to wait for respawns, and I got Crits. 

I can't prove either, but I've had no dealings with CircleX and I'm 
unlikely to, given they appear to be on the wrong side of the atlantic.

Leonard L. Church wrote:
> It wasn't vanilla because it was instant respawn (that I can prove) and 
> no crits (I can't PROVE it, but the 5 mins. I played there, I didn't see 
> 1 crit anything).
>
> So no. It isn't vanilla.
>
> If you advertise Vanilla, turn off instant respawn and (if it's off) 
> turn on crits.
>
> GOOD DAY SIR!
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> and why isnt it vanilla?  because it goes to 25/24 when someone with a 
>> reserved slot joins? or that it has hlstatsx?  vanilla to me means that 
>> the gameplay is the same as valve intended with respawn times, team size 
>> etc.  so why are you calling me an ass?
>>
>> Leonard L. Church wrote:
>>     
>>> I just got off a server (CircleX-Gaming #2 - 209.160.43.166:27015) and 
>>> they are listing all the tags including vanilla, but it truly is not.
>>>
>>> Gheez... What asses.
>>>
>>> Arg! wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> but this is going to be the same problem we have before, if the telcos dont
>>>> put the vanilla tags in for their servers, then the list will be corrupted
>>>> and useless for searching.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Leonard L. Church
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Really? Are the custom server admins going to argue this point?? 
>>>>> Seriously?
>>>>>
>>>>> Put the Vanilla tag on please. Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Arg! wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> you can have no filters and sort by tags!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>             
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>> The problem with using no tags is there isn't a way (that I've found so
>>>>>>> far)
>>>>>>> to have it only display servers with no tags.  You either get all the
>>>>>>> servers listed or servers with tags you've added to your filter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Richard Eid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Arg! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> vanilla == no tags, surely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or only the gamemode tags.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, what we need next is to get this in the Steam server browser, not
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> the in game one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Richard Eid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't be against the idea of servers coming pre-set with a
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> 'Vanilla'
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> tag by default, but only if there aren't any more shenanigans with
>>>>>>>>> falsifying the tag info.  For example, John Doe decides to get a
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> server
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> going, so he downloads it, adds some custom gameplay elements, then
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> uses
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> plug-in to keep the server with the only tag of 'Vanilla', while
>>>>>>>>> short/insta-spawn and low gravity, among other things, remain in play
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For everyone who is going to play by the rules, what do you feel
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>> should
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>> become of those that skirt the system now?  Would delisting be a fair
>>>>>>>>> solution?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For those that will NOT be properly using tags as intended, why not?
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>  In
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> first e-mail in this thread, I posted a link to a thread in the Steam
>>>>>>>>> forums
>>>>>>>>> in which a server op said that he's not going to use tags purely to
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> more traffic to his server.  How do you all feel about this now?  As a
>>>>>>>>> player, it's frustrating because it's basically a glimpse into the
>>>>>>>>> near-future and that glimpse tells me it's not going to get any better
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> I'm sure he won't be the only one who will do it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess there's going to be some falsifying of the tag info no matter
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> happens, but it'd be nice to keep it to a minimum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, for everyone that's responded here, thanks for making me feel
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> about going into the server browser now.  It looks like it's not going
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> that difficult to find the games I am looking for, save for the few
>>>>>>>>> holdouts
>>>>>>>>> who don't care about tricking people into connecting to their servers.
>>>>>>>>> Thank you all again for your time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Richard Eid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:48 PM, SakeFox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>> i was kinda surprised that when you turn cheats on it doesn't auto
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>> tag
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO Valve should quickly add a "auto-tagging" feature like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>> There is already an auto tagging system. It's working like before.
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>> change some parameters, like maxplayers, crits, respawn times, it
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>> autmatically added to sv_tags.
>>>>>>>>>>>
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