They can enforce it if they wanted to. Whats going to stop them? They can
pretty much do what they want to do, people will either take it or leave it.

With the match making system and the openbrowser, there are going to be two
divides. The vanilla l4d and the custom l4d. Custom maps are already being
created and played on regular servers.

What is valve trying to do with a matchmaking system. The only other game
that I can think of recently that does the same thing is combat arms. But
the servers are hosted by the games creator nexxon, not the community. And
it looks like its working for them.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Timothy L Havener <
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> So Valve is going to go down that road and blacklist the IP of anyone
> who kicks someone unfairly?  Besides that is also only for ranked
> servers.  There are unranked servers that do not have those rules and
> you can do as you please.
>
> J T wrote:
> > Battlefiedl 2 ROE was a means of allowing "10 year olds" play the game
> and
> > not get his feelings hurt. In essence, you couldn't do what you liked
> with
> > your server if it conflicted with the ROE. Like pistol only servers.
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Timothy L Havener <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Why not argue the point?  If you are going to make such a ludicrous
> >> statement please back it up with logic.  So I pay for a server for my
> >> friends and I to play on or just for the heck of it and I should have no
> >> say as to what goes on? Who in their right mind would waste the time? If
> >> Valve wants to control the gaming experience so some ten year old
> >> doesn't get his feelings hurt then let them pay for their own servers.
> >> I am not going to pay for them to have a place for other people to play
> >> where I have no say.  Everyone is afraid of the big bad admin.  Do this
> >> and see how quickly you have no community and no where to play.
> >>
> >> Leonard L. Church wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am serious Spencer. I know we don't agree on allot of things and this
> >>> appears to be another one, so let's kindly not argue the point.
> >>>
> >>> Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> You can't be serious.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L.
> >>>>
> >> Church
> >>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:40 AM
> >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking
> >>>>
> >>>> Personally, I think that if you open up your server to the public (and
> >>>> you are by listing on the lobby server), then your rights go out the
> >>>> window as far as you never being kicked or choosing what things get
> >>>> voted on.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think this would be a step backwards as abusive admins can just sit
> >>>> and wait for people to join up, grief them until they leave, then wait
> >>>> for them to rejoin.
> >>>>
> >>>> Valve, please don't do this.
> >>>>
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