You have to see it from the point of view from those of us who host servers. We bust our asses trying to build a community and fun environment for people to play your games. Some little kid with mommy issues complains about being kicked and kicks up a fuss and his opinion is considered valid enough to warrant restrictions being placed on us. Its a bit frustrating...
You let them vent and you hear their voices...hear ours...please. Erik Johnson wrote: > This is in the realm of a non constructive thread. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Timothy L > Havener > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 3:37 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking > > It really frightens me that kids are growing up with this unrealistic > belief that everything is supposed to be fair to the point they cannot > take the rejection of being kicked from a game server. Life isn't > fair. Pick yourself up and dust yourself off and just find another server > > > Cc2iscooL wrote: > >> Even though I consider voogru generally annoying... ;) >> >> He does have a point. You own the server, you own the rights to do whatever >> you want and enforce whatever rules you want. Period. If you don't like the >> way admins run their servers, start up a listen server and bitch to the >> people that join and then complain that the game is laggy. :) >> >> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Mob ftw. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. >>> Church >>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:44 PM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking >>> >>> I seriously don't want to argue the point more then I already did. It >>> appears other server operators feel differently and the mob will rule on >>> this one. >>> >>> Comparing a rented server to your house or nightclub is silly. Also, >>> comparing kicking someone equaling murder is also silly. >>> >>> Decide what you want. I'm out of the L4D game. >>> >>> Timothy L Havener wrote: >>> >>> >>>> So Valve is going to go down that road and blacklist the IP of anyone >>>> who kicks someone unfairly? Besides that is also only for ranked >>>> servers. There are unranked servers that do not have those rules and >>>> you can do as you please. >>>> >>>> J T wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Battlefiedl 2 ROE was a means of allowing "10 year olds" play the game >>>>> >>>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>>>> not get his feelings hurt. In essence, you couldn't do what you liked >>>>> >>>>> >>> with >>> >>> >>>>> your server if it conflicted with the ROE. Like pistol only servers. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Timothy L Havener < >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Why not argue the point? If you are going to make such a ludicrous >>>>>> statement please back it up with logic. So I pay for a server for my >>>>>> friends and I to play on or just for the heck of it and I should have >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> no >>> >>> >>>>>> say as to what goes on? Who in their right mind would waste the time? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> If >>> >>> >>>>>> Valve wants to control the gaming experience so some ten year old >>>>>> doesn't get his feelings hurt then let them pay for their own servers. >>>>>> I am not going to pay for them to have a place for other people to play >>>>>> where I have no say. Everyone is afraid of the big bad admin. Do this >>>>>> and see how quickly you have no community and no where to play. >>>>>> >>>>>> Leonard L. Church wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am serious Spencer. I know we don't agree on allot of things and >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> this >>> >>> >>>>>>> appears to be another one, so let's kindly not argue the point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You can't be serious. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Church >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:40 AM >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, I think that if you open up your server to the public >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> (and >>> >>> >>>>>>>> you are by listing on the lobby server), then your rights go out the >>>>>>>> window as far as you never being kicked or choosing what things get >>>>>>>> voted on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think this would be a step backwards as abusive admins can just sit >>>>>>>> and wait for people to join up, grief them until they leave, then >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> wait >>> >>> >>>>>>>> for them to rejoin. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Valve, please don't do this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>> >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> archives, >>> >>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> >>>> >>> please visit: >>> >>> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
