Why not argue the point?  If you are going to make such a ludicrous 
statement please back it up with logic.  So I pay for a server for my 
friends and I to play on or just for the heck of it and I should have no 
say as to what goes on? Who in their right mind would waste the time? If 
Valve wants to control the gaming experience so some ten year old 
doesn't get his feelings hurt then let them pay for their own servers.  
I am not going to pay for them to have a place for other people to play 
where I have no say.  Everyone is afraid of the big bad admin.  Do this 
and see how quickly you have no community and no where to play.

Leonard L. Church wrote:
> I am serious Spencer. I know we don't agree on allot of things and this 
> appears to be another one, so let's kindly not argue the point.
>
> Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote:
>   
>> You can't be serious.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leonard L. Church
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:40 AM
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] L4d vote kicking
>>
>> Personally, I think that if you open up your server to the public (and 
>> you are by listing on the lobby server), then your rights go out the 
>> window as far as you never being kicked or choosing what things get 
>> voted on.
>>
>> I think this would be a step backwards as abusive admins can just sit 
>> and wait for people to join up, grief them until they leave, then wait 
>> for them to rejoin.
>>
>> Valve, please don't do this.
>>
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