In my opinion, I think Left 4 Dead is being 'locked down' because of all the
problems that appeared during the last year with TF2. It became nearly
impossible to find a plain Jane vanilla TF2 server. It's like every single
one of them had some mod installed that changed gameplay. I'm not against
the modding community, though I'd like to just be able to play the game as
it was intended. I feel that Valve and it's playtesters know a bit more
about what makes a game fun than Joe Blow modder...so I'd like to see what
Valve has to offer and not what 32-man, insta-spawn, fast ubercharge, longer
spawn for non-clan members, less damage for non-clan members, etc. server op
has to offer.
Left 4 Dead is quickly becoming what TF2 became. A different game. Last
night I was on a versus server that spawned a Tank ~1 minute into each
round. Rounds ended quickly and no team ever made it to the Safe Room. It
was plain old not fun. Maybe that server op likes playing that way, but
nobody on the server at the time did...so we voted back to the lobby. The
next server had sv_cheats 0 in its config so we faced random issues, like
Infected only being able to spawn 3 at a time and not 4. The list goes on.
While, as a server op, I'd like to have a bit more control over my own
server, I welcome these changes being introduced to the game. Just because
a server op likes to play the game a certain way does NOT mean everybody
does. I'm not too keen on the Normal difficulty for Versus mode, but we'll
see what happens.
I think Valve is doing this for the community and not for any other reason.
Most of the complaints I hear are about how this server or that server sucks
because of x or y changes made to it. Locking certain aspects of the
gameplay down seems almost a necessary evil when combined with how we now
connect to servers. Give it time. Valve is obviously listening to the
feedback being given and are making changes as they see fit. Just last
night I was chatting with someone from Valve about certain aspects of server
management. He had explained in detail what things could be changed and how
they would affect our servers. I thought I had understood the whole
conversation, but I had completely missed the bigger scope of the issues.
Maybe we're not looking at the long-term and only seeing the short-term.
Like I said...give it some time.
-Richard Eid
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Kevin Kolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'd like to chime in here and second this. I love versus mode but by
> far I've had the most fun in versus playing on servers running on Hard
> difficulty or better.
>
> I find normal is just way to easy and too forgiving on the survivors.
> If anything I think in an ideal world I would be able to CHOOSE the
> difficulty for versus when creating the lobby.
>
> Why Valve feels versus should only be played with wimpy normal
> difficulty zombies I have no idea.
>
> Let the players play it at the difficulty they want, don't lock my
> server down so I can't play how I please.
>
> This is by far the worst game that I've ever operated a server for. I
> feel like Valve is expecting people to run these as basically a public
> service to them.
>
> If you want this level of control valve you should pay to run your own
> servers. And at this rate you may have to.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:46:25 -0800
> > From: "Formologic23" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available
> > To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'"
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> >
> > Why on earth would you lock the Versus difficulty? That is a pretty lame
> > forced update in my opinion. Normal is too easy, and most of the people I
> > have talked with prefer to play Versus on Advanced. So why would you LOCK
> > the difficulty? I really am considering shutting down my servers because
> if
> > I can't have control over them (including the clients to a certain
> degree),
> > then I really am not interested in supporting this particular game
> anymore.
> > I love the game, but seriously, this is ludicrous.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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