Thanks for the reply Burton. This is good news to hear. These are my
thoughts:

- Membership--yes...I do like the membership idea. I think it's most of our
fears that this list gets thrown in with all of the forum trollers that are
out there. 
- Moderation--Also yes....If we keep this list, I would like to see more
moderation, if possible. But...if the move to forums must be made, the
proper moderation will keep things on point and helpful to all of us. 
- Forum Server Performance--I have seen an improvement to the forums and can
understand why you would want to take advantage of that. 
- I think the main idea behind the mailing list (at least for me) was the
ability to get an email when Valve posted on it. We used to get "heads up's"
when a update was incoming. To be able to get this on my blackberry and
inform my staff to get ready....well, that was very very useful in keeping a
busy set of servers. Having forums....it will be more difficult.

Unless....there was a usergroup on the forums devoted to Server Admins...in
which, a Valve employee could send an email to that usergroup so that
everyone gets a "no-reply" email informing us of the update. I just thought
of that. Might be a good idea. 

Either way....I love Valve games and love running servers, so I'll go where
you guys go. 

Regards, 

Aaron Rapp

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Burton Johnsey
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 5:42 PM
To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists

Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating the
mailing lists to the forums.

The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits and
features of the forums to further strengthen the community, giving us a
central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is continually being
updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to also allow us to add our own
features.

To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums:

- Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private so that
random forum users cannot post.
- Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums. Moderators
would be volunteers from the current mailing list participants.
- Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs the
forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in the past
- The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list.

 We want to make things better, not worse.  We appreciate any further
feedback you have to offer.


-----Original Message-----
From: Burton Johnsey
Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
To:
hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com>,
Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>,
hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com>


We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th.

After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of the
forums listed below.

Windows server discussion should be conducted here:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc)

Linux server discussion should be conducted here:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source)
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc)

If you have not already done so, please register a forum
account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php>.

NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing.

-BurtonJ
Valve Software

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