I see mailing list much more private and confidental than the forums, it's like we're closer to each other.
Kveri gamead...@127001.org wrote: > Another advantage of mailing lists is the users have their own offline > archive of all the discussions that can be tagged, indexed and searched by > the users (as well as web-based list archives). With a forum, the data is > held in only one place. This can make searching for things harder than it > needs to be (I have a pretty low opinion of most forum search systems), > especially if it turns out the reason you can't find the _really useful_ > post is because the user edited it or it was attached to a thread that got > derailed and deleted for racial abuse or similar. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- >> boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Rapp >> Sent: 10 February 2009 01:56 >> To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> Thanks for the reply Burton. This is good news to hear. These are my >> thoughts: >> >> - Membership--yes...I do like the membership idea. I think it's most of >> our >> fears that this list gets thrown in with all of the forum trollers that >> are >> out there. >> - Moderation--Also yes....If we keep this list, I would like to see >> more >> moderation, if possible. But...if the move to forums must be made, the >> proper moderation will keep things on point and helpful to all of us. >> - Forum Server Performance--I have seen an improvement to the forums >> and can >> understand why you would want to take advantage of that. >> - I think the main idea behind the mailing list (at least for me) was >> the >> ability to get an email when Valve posted on it. We used to get "heads >> up's" >> when a update was incoming. To be able to get this on my blackberry and >> inform my staff to get ready....well, that was very very useful in >> keeping a >> busy set of servers. Having forums....it will be more difficult. >> >> Unless....there was a usergroup on the forums devoted to Server >> Admins...in >> which, a Valve employee could send an email to that usergroup so that >> everyone gets a "no-reply" email informing us of the update. I just >> thought >> of that. Might be a good idea. >> >> Either way....I love Valve games and love running servers, so I'll go >> where >> you guys go. >> >> Regards, >> >> Aaron Rapp >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com >> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Burton >> Johnsey >> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 5:42 PM >> To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> >> Given the feedback received from the list, we are holding off migrating >> the >> mailing lists to the forums. >> >> The intent of migrating to the forums was to leverage the benefits and >> features of the forums to further strengthen the community, giving us a >> central spot to gather feedback. The forum software is continually >> being >> updated by vBulletin and is flexible enough to also allow us to add our >> own >> features. >> >> To address a couple of specific concerns about the forums: >> >> - Membership - We can keep the membership in the DS forums private so >> that >> random forum users cannot post. >> - Moderation - We can assign moderators for specific forums. Moderators >> would be volunteers from the current mailing list participants. >> - Forum server performance - We have upgraded the system that runs the >> forums and we do not experience the lag we were experiencing in the >> past >> - The forums are accessible to more people than the mailing list. >> >> We want to make things better, not worse. We appreciate any further >> feedback you have to offer. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Burton Johnsey >> Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 12:38 PM >> Subject: Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists >> To: >> hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_a...@list.valvesoftware.co >> m>, >> Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>>, >> hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com<mailto:hlds_li...@valvesoftware.com> >> >> >> We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February >> 20th. >> >> After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of >> the >> forums listed below. >> >> Windows server discussion should be conducted here: >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source) >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc) >> >> Linux server discussion should be conducted here: >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source) >> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc) >> >> If you have not already done so, please register a forum >> account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php>. >> >> NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing. >> >> -BurtonJ >> Valve Software >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
