I'd like to consider it, but I'm not sure you know the answer to it either. 

So, the question still remains. How many servers are ran out of the
somebody's basement on a shitty connection?

Wouldn't it be smarter to give the user the ability to select their region?
I've been assigned to many servers that were nowhere near where I'm playing
and that was the reason behind the bad connections. 

There has to be a better way to do this, besides making our servers second
rate. Because EA is in charge of this (and you know that's how they're
getting their own "official servers"), the rest of us don't get to take part
in it? Sounds fubar'd to me. 

Aaron Rapp


-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert Whelan
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:24 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Client Update

Quote: "Yea...it's not official but it's definitely the same as the
officials."


Consider how many servers are vanilla yet are ran out of somebodies basement
on a shitty connection though...




________________________________
From: Aaron Rapp <r...@iz3d.com>
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:13:32 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Client Update

Well....as if this game couldn't get any worse, at least in terms of
community building. Yes, we can have servers that our own community members
can use, but now we can't attract new members. There's already a vote on our
forums on taking down the L4D servers. 

Shouldn't there be a way to, like TF2 servers, to be seen as a vanilla
server, if, in fact, you are a vanilla server? Yea...it's not official but
it's definitely the same as the officials.

Valve, it would be nice if you never work with EA again please. Somehow,
I've always had this feeling that the reason this game is the way it
is...comes from some low IQ people over there at EA. You guys are smarter
than that.  

Aaron Rapp

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Richard Eid
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:02 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Client Update

http://store.steampowered.com/news/2349/

That's what is going on.  Left 4 Dead players are now going to official
servers by default.  Since the nature of the lobby system would allow for
people to end up on any random server out there, the Left 4 Dead experience
was being ruined by modded servers.  If you create a lobby and look under
Game Settings, you now have the options of Official Dedicated(default), Best
Available Dedicated and Local Server.  It's now up to the player to decide
which type of server he or she wants to end up on.

My guess, which can't be all that far off just by noticing what's been
mentioned here on HLDS, is that players are using the default of Official
Dedicated because it guarantees them the cleanest experience possible.

                                                    -Richard Eid


On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Mark Edwards
<sixtysixno...@hotmail.com>wrote:

> Zero players on our three L4D servers in the 48 hours or so since the
> second
> update.  What is going on?
>
> >> > From: Admin Bob <admin_...@cox.net>
> >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >> > <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 7:48:41 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Client Update
> >> >
> >> > Still empty. Still getting errors:
> >> > A2C_print from 68.142.72.250:2701
> >> > Bad challenge
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Adam
> Nowacki
> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:09 AM
> >> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] L4D Client Update
> >> >
> >> > Blood Letter wrote:
> >> > > So did this update fix the empty server issue for anyone?
> >> > > Mine is still bone dry.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe because people want to play on official servers? The search
> works
> >> > now and will actually fall back to non-official servers thanks to a
> >> > longer search timeout.
> >> >
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