Adding to that post:Also please provide COMPLETE release notes. Not only were the changes to mp_gamemode and the ms_variables (the latter of which now to seem to have been removed/hidden altogether), but the SDK was changed, and was undocumented, which made it way more difficult than it needed to be for Sourcemod to be updated to become fully compatible. From my understanding it was one small change that broke a handful of plugins, and that change could have easily been added to some release notes, saving a LOT of people a lot of headache.
Jonah Hirsch ----------------------- On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:04 AM, SmOoThEm <ad...@righttorule.com> wrote: > In response to Violent Crimes and his post: > > This has been a major complaint for years now, valve makes all kinds of > changes and must release multi patches to fix the original patch all at the > expense of the server owners. I'm glad we all have nothing better to do but > update and troubleshoot valves broken patch updates all night long. It's > become a regular routine fighting just to get our servers online let alone > worry about sourcemod or plugin issues because of changes and updates > nobody > was prepared for. They remove cvars, change gameplay, introduce bugs, and > piss a lot of people off every update with the slew of problems that always > seem to follow. > Once again I make my own plea, I would recommend you guys do the same. > > PLEASE VALVE, GIVE US BETA TESTING! > > You do so for steam client updates and such, it could be done for other > products too. > Give the server owners a break, allow us the chance to test updates and > changes to FIND your bugs before it hits the masses and creates major > problems. > > SmOoThEm > > -----Original Message----- > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Violent Crimes > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 7:20 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available > > Are updates even tested? I can't think of an update that has came out > with no issues in it. > > Steven Sumichrast wrote: > > I'm with msleeper on this -- my L4D forks have been sitting idle now > > since the updates. I ran them vanilla and still nothing. Not sure > > what's the deal but it's like the heartbeats/notifications to the > > steam servers aren't getting there or being reported. > > > > Either way it's pretty irritating because all the servers are now down > > for my steam groups. > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Mike O'Laughlen <molaugh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> use the map command with the gamemode as the second argument. > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:12 PM, msleeper > <mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com>wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Bumping, I am not getting any lobby connections still, and as voogru > >>> said I am unable to change mp_gamemode without the aid of SourceMod. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 18:04 -0700, Jason Ruymen wrote: > >>> > >>>> A new, highly recommended Left 4 Dead update is now available. Please > >>>> > >>> run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes > include: > >>> > >>>> - Made the variable "mp_gamemode" available again. Note that you can > also > >>>> > >>> load maps directly with different game modes by specifying it in the > map > >>> command. For example, "map l4d_garage01_alleys versus" will set > mp_gamemode > >>> versus for you automatically and load the first map of Crash Course > >>> > >>>> - Added "mm_dedicated_force_servers" to allow specification of a list > of > >>>> > >>> dedicated server addresses manually used for searching > >>> (ms_force_dedicated_server is depreciated) > >>> > >>>> - Updated shared libraries and DLLs preventing dedicated servers > listing > >>>> > >>> correctly, appearing on Steam groups, and being found via sv_search_key > >>> > >>>> Jason > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> > >>> please visit: > >>> > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.48/2147 - Release Date: 05/31/09 > 20:45:00 > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
