Then they would have beta clients used to test these servers... I think its a can of worms to do a beta though... At least they fixed some of the problems in a relatively fast manner. Give them a day or so and I am sure things will be back to normal and everyone will be happy.
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:40 PM, <gamead...@127001.org> wrote: > Beta updates make sense for dedicated-server-only fixes... however just > about every patch also includes balance and/or client-affecting fixes - you > can't test them with a server beta test > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- > > boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Keeper > > Sent: 01 October 2009 18:37 > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available > > > > Why should they? They have a way to let server operators and players > > update > > almost instantaneously. With the way the steam platform works, we > > become > > their unpaid QA group. It is a headache for GSPs as well as individual > > server operators, but is anybody losing money over it? If not, then I > > can > > see why they would be hesitant to change their business model. > > > > Look at it this way, and I know a lot of people are different, I bought > > HL2DM when it first came out. I haven't purchased another steam game > > since > > then. Yet I still play that game every night. Valve isn't making any > > money > > off of me. They don't make any money off the server operators either. > > > > Personally, I think it's a horrible way to do business ... but that > > would be > > more from a pride standpoint than a business model. > > > > Keeper > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SmOoThEm [mailto:ad...@righttorule.com] > > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 1:04 PM > > To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Left 4 Dead Update Available > > > > In response to Violent Crimes and his post: > > > > This has been a major complaint for years now, valve makes all kinds of > > changes and must release multi patches to fix the original patch all at > > the > > expense of the server owners. I'm glad we all have nothing better to do > > but > > update and troubleshoot valves broken patch updates all night long. > > It's > > become a regular routine fighting just to get our servers online let > > alone > > worry about sourcemod or plugin issues because of changes and updates > > nobody > > was prepared for. They remove cvars, change gameplay, introduce bugs, > > and > > piss a lot of people off every update with the slew of problems that > > always > > seem to follow. > > Once again I make my own plea, I would recommend you guys do the same. > > > > PLEASE VALVE, GIVE US BETA TESTING! > > > > You do so for steam client updates and such, it could be done for other > > products too. > > Give the server owners a break, allow us the chance to test updates and > > changes to FIND your bugs before it hits the masses and creates major > > problems. > > > > SmOoThEm > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
