You are clueless. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Blood Letter <bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:02:10 To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key
Oh shut up, you've been posting your dumb crap here for years, and you're why I left. Yes you, specifically. I came here for help about my problem, and all of one person has had the decency to even respond - luckily it was someone with the same problem. > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:00:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > The point is that you're blowing hot air at a bunch of people that don't > care. Get a blog or post your whining on steampowered. > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 16:56 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > And telling me to not complain on this list isn't going to stop me from > > doing it. > > What's your point? > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:44:34 -0600 > > > From: gulf...@gmail.com > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > They should be GUI options, but they aren't. And complaining on this list > > > isn't going to get valve to add it to L4D2. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Blood Letter > > > <bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I've already posted about it, and someone else has the same issue. > > > > I have the most basic of configs. It should work, and I have run many > > > > servers in the past with no issue. > > > > > > > > I don't get what you don't understand - these should all be GUI options > > > > - > > > > not things I have to set in the console (which is inaccessible while in > > > > a > > > > lobby) or bind to shortcut keys or to the startup options. > > > > > > > > The issues I'm having with getting the server to properly accept my > > > > lobby > > > > reservation are separate. > > > > > > > > > From: mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:34:44 -0500 > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > This seems like a lot of user error then since all of that stuff works > > > > > for everyone else, or at least works as much as it is supposed to. Why > > > > > doesn't search key work for you? You should investigate that. Why > > > > > can't > > > > > you "actually connect" to the server? That also seems like something > > > > > that should be important to figure out. > > > > > > > > > > The search key and force dedicated servers lets you, as lobby leader, > > > > > specify what servers you want to preference to. If the servers are > > > > > full > > > > > then you'll go to another server, just like you normally would. > > > > > > > > > > I don't get what you're not understanding. "I should have the direct > > > > > option of choosing a server (mine and my favorites) as well as the > > > > > option of being matched to one." That's exactly what search key and/or > > > > > force dedicated servers does. You specify a server to use, and if it > > > > > is > > > > > free then you go to it. Your little list of complains all work with > > > > > minimal effort, except the first one which doesn't really make sense > > > > > with the type of environment in L4D/L4D2. > > > > > > > > > > This isn't TF2 or CSS, you can't just join any server and start > > > > > playing. > > > > > If you want to do that, then remove your server from the lobby system > > > > > and connect directly via IP. If you want to use a lobby, then use some > > > > > combination of the many server CVARs to make it possible. You can't > > > > > have > > > > > it both ways, they conflict how eachother work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 15:24 -0800, Blood Letter wrote: > > > > > > Uh, search key doesn't work for me, and force dedicated server > > > > > > requires > > > > that I can actually connect to the server. > > > > > > > > > > > > I currently can not start a lobby and join the lobby to my server. > > > > > > I currently can not join my server directly from the steam group > > > > > > server > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have to have someone outside of my lan join the server from the > > > > > > steam > > > > group list. > > > > > > Then and only then am I able to join the server (by joining their > > > > > > lobby > > > > explicitly or implicitly through the steam group server list). > > > > > > > > > > > > Joining the server normally results in a "session no longer valid" > > > > error when it attempts to connect. > > > > > > Using a search key results in absolutely nothing - the server is > > > > > > never > > > > found, and I never attempt to connect. > > > > > > > > > > > > And why would I set a default search key or force dedicated servers > > > > list? > > > > > > My server is public and I would only want to use it if it's free - > > > > otherwise I'm content joining whatever server I'm matched with (when I'm > > > > lobby leader). > > > > > > > > > > > > I can bind shortcuts. I can set launch options. I can get on my > > > > server which isn't functioning as it should. > > > > > > But I should have the direct option of choosing a server (mine and > > > > > > my > > > > favorites) as well as the option of being matched to one. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not rocket science. I shouldn't have to jump through ANY hoops > > > > to: > > > > > > > > > > > > Open the game, get directly (no lobby screen) to my server or a > > > > favorite server, if available. > > > > > > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to use my server or a favorite > > > > server, if available. > > > > > > Open the game, make a lobby, tell it to match me to an available > > > > server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: mu...@anbservers.net > > > > > > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:54:12 -0500 > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add +sv_search_key <key> to launch options > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Johan > > > > Andersson > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:04 PM > > > > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bind F8 "mm_dedicated_force_servers IPADRESS" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Press F8 before starting the search for a server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Couldn't be any easier tbh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > From: "Blood Letter" <bw_bloodlet...@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:41 PM > > > > > > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terrible solution. > > > > > > > > Nothing bugs me more than being a member of a bunch of pointless > > > > steam > > > > > > > > groups. > > > > > > > > (Well, automagically being joined to random steam groups for no > > > > reaosn > > > > > > > > bugs me a lot too.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want that crap cluttering up my friends list. > > > > > > > > I don't want shitty updates about "your steam group has an > > > > > > > > event in > > > > 5 > > > > > > > > minutes!" popping up all the time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shouldn't have to put up with that crap to maintain a list of > > > > servers I > > > > > > > > like. > > > > > > > > This is what server favorites was for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love to see the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - An extra button on the UI - Favorite Servers > > > > > > > > - A "Favorite Servers" page which lists servers you have tagged > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > favorite, their ping, map, player count, game mode, and lobby > > > > status. > > > > > > > > - Ability to select a server from the list and remove it from > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > favorites or connect to it (if lobby restrictions and player > > > > > > > > count > > > > allow). > > > > > > > > - A UI button to "add server to favorites". Show it on the > > > > > > > > server > > > > info > > > > > > > > popup in game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not even asking for a full server browser - just a > > > > > > > > favorite's > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: matthew.j.gottl...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:32:03 -0600 > > > > > > > >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Server Key > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Make a steam group called "Joebob's L4D Servers" and invite > > > > everyone. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 3:25 PM, shoskins73 > > > > > > > >> <shoskin...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > I'm assuming that only works if I'm the Lobby Leader? What > > > > happens if > > > > > > > >> > I'm > > > > > > > >> > in someone elses Lobby and they start the game, will it take > > > > > > > >> > me > > > > to my > > > > > > > >> > server > > > > > > > >> > while everyone else goes to another server? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > Long story short, I had a server for the first 2 months L4D > > > > > > > >> > was > > > > out and > > > > > > > >> > stopped using it as it was such a PITA to get a Lobby > > > > > > > >> > connected > > > > to it > > > > > > > >> > (at > > > > > > > >> > that time there was no sv_search_key function at all. This > > > > whole setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > for > > > > > > > >> > using specific servers is crap, especially when not everyone > > > > > > > >> > on > > > > your > > > > > > > >> > friends > > > > > > > >> > list is in any one particular Steam Group. > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jake Skenna < > > > > halflife...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >> I'd put the command in an autoexec.cfg so you can get your > > > > > > > >> >> own > > > > server > > > > > > > >> >> every > > > > > > > >> >> time without having to enter it once you get in game. > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > >> > please visit: > > > > > > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > 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