Of course, you can't compare a large franchise of games to the indie games, these guys had no advertising and no intention to make a lot of money - MW2 was backed by advertising, hype, and was a sequel which naturally gave it an edge. For a more fair comparison however, how much did the first COD game released gross in its first 5 days?
I was just drawing attention to the fact that, yes, a lower price CAN and WILL bring in the crowds, and earn you a lot of money - I'm sure each of those developers are now happy with their ~$200K each. I'm yet to look at actual figures, but I assume the $1.25M was after the charity donations? The point is more the VOLUME of sales given the situation. On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Alec Sanger <eclyp...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > They raised almost $1,000,000 for themselves. That's fantastic, and I fully > support these guys. I'm a huge fan of indy developers and do what I can to > support them. But come on, they raised a total of $1.25 million between 5 > games. MW2 earned over half a billion dollars in sales in just 5 days. Yes, > 550x more than that. > > I'm not trying to say that the highest price is always the best, I'm just > saying that all business are here to make money, and they have found the > price which the most people are willing to pay. Going lower may result in > more sales but a lower revenue, and a higher cost may result in less sales > and a lower revenue. > > Thank you, > Alec Sanger > > > >> From: dislexs...@dislexsick.com >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:11:49 +0930 >> Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA >> >> Go look up the 'humble indie bundle'. It kills your arguement pretty >> fast actually. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 15/05/2010, at 4:47 AM, Alec Sanger <eclyp...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > Since you've put no lower bounds on your theory, are you asserting >> > that valve would make more money by selling their games for $0.05 >> > rather than $30? You have to realize that there are analysts hired >> > to determine the most appropriate price point based on current and >> > past trends. I would certainly trust their judgment over yours. >> > While I would love valve games for as little money as possible, it's >> > not always in their best interest to reduce the price. >> > >> > Why are we even talking about this on the HLDS mailing list? >> > >> > Thank you, >> > Alec Sanger >> > >> > >> > >> >> Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 15:09:09 -0400 >> >> From: gizmokid2...@gmail.com >> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA >> >> >> >> Just to add my quick $0.02 since most people don't understand. >> >> >> >> "And if it does make a sale more likely, does giving the game out for >> >> less money help Valve?" >> >> >> >> ABSOLUTELY! Thinking otherwise leads you to the way of Adobe with CS. >> >> >> >> You're going to get more people to buy the game at $35 than you are >> >> at >> >> $50. You'll easily get enough extra sales to make more money selling >> >> more copies than you would by selling it to less people at $50/ea. >> >> >> >> Simple economics, yet most people and business owners don't >> >> understand. >> >> It's not like Valve has to spend extra money for each extra copy of >> >> the >> >> game sold...they aren't selling physical copies, it's all digital, >> >> and >> >> they already have the infrastructure in place to handle the >> >> downloads. >> >> >> >> -Michael >> >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------- >> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA >> >> From: Ed Kellett <e...@estc.demon.co.uk> >> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >> Date: 5/14/2010 2:51 PM EST >> >>> Piracy is not defined by your moral outlook on the situation, the >> >>> CS:S beta >> >>> is copyright Valve and to download it (from their servers or >> >>> otherwise) >> >>> without their permission is illegal. Whether or not illegal >> >>> downloading >> >>> "hardly hurts Valve" is for Valve to decide, as is who they want >> >>> to have >> >>> access to it. The Subscriber Agreement gives them the right to ban >> >>> anyone >> >>> they like from Steam in any case. >> >>> >> >>> How can an "increase in anticipation" arise from more people >> >>> already having >> >>> the game anyway? And if it does make a sale more likely, does >> >>> giving the >> >>> game out for less money help Valve? >> >>> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>> From: "Max S"<si3ila...@gmail.com> >> >>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> >>> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> >>> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 7:11 PM >> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] COUNTER-STRIKE: SOURCE BETA >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> If it were a paid DLC and none of the public had access, then >> >>>> yes, it >> >>>> would >> >>>> be piracy. You can only play on Beta servers if you've purchased >> >>>> a license >> >>>> of CS:S, thousands have already downloaded the client and posted >> >>>> videos >> >>>> online, and legitimate copies of the game will be updated next >> >>>> week. No >> >>>> core >> >>>> gameplay elements have been changed/added, and an increase in >> >>>> anticipation >> >>>> hardly hurts Valve (and increases the probability of a week(end) >> >>>> sale to >> >>>> celebrate the update). >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:06 AM, ics<i...@ics-base.net> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Well it's like a copy of a game you do not own. 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