>Not if they can mash 'quickplay' again next time and get an identical experience on any number of other servers.
Then provide an experience that sets your community apart from the rest. Prior to quickplay you were still competing with other servers and had to provide a way to convince them that yours was better. I know when I first started playing CSS, TF2, and ZPS I stuck to the servers that tried new community maps one day a week it was a lot of fun to try out these new maps and it got the custom mappers to get involved with the community and take feedback. On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:46 AM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: > That has been always the main thing that i do what i do to have my own > servers and control over them but they seem to take that away bit by bit. > In CSGO, your server is basically open for any map unless you yourself > restrict it. L4D based games, you couldn't even force certain map to be on > 24/7. Right now on TF2 you are required to register your server to even get > quickplay traffic and run it with 24 slots to get optimum count. Also you > are required to run only Valve approved maps to get max benefits. Your > benefits that were set on the go are slipping away and you haven't even > noticed. > > Quickplay while it is good, it also killed a lot of servers and there > isn't barely any maps that run anything else than official maps. > > -ics > > Dill Bates kirjoitti: > > The benefit I get from running my own server is that I have admin rights, >> and make make my own rules. That's good enough for me. :) >> >> >> On Nov 8, 2013, at 10:38 PM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: >> >> Good and valid points. Registering server for benefits seems to be only >>> perk for us running servers and receiving players from quickplay. Basically >>> everyone else have a shot of getting something back except us. I don't like >>> advertisements in general and i don't use them or donations but i'm all in >>> for some sort of model that gets some other benefits for running a server >>> that is usefull to the game as a whole. But i guess there are too many >>> idiots among us and little time for Valve to check who is good and who is >>> bad. >>> >>> -ics >>> >>> Doctor McKay kirjoitti: >>> >>>> I really couldn't have said it better myself. >>>> >>>> >>>> Dr. McKay >>>> www.doctormckay.com <http://www.doctormckay.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Robert Paulson >>>> <thepauls...@gmail.com<mailto: >>>> thepauls...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Servers don't need ads much like TF2 didn't need to become >>>> free-to-play. It is just a different model of revenue, one that >>>> server owners should be free to choose. >>>> >>>> Once TF2 became F2P, a larger portion of donation money went to >>>> the Mann Co Store instead. It also filled slots full of kids who >>>> aren't able to pay anything because if they had any money they >>>> would have moved to new games like COD. When a game is brand new, >>>> there are plenty of people willing to shell out +100€ on servers >>>> and donations without a second thought. But that time is long past >>>> for TF2 now. For those who want more than the cheapest servers or >>>> colocation, donations aren't enough. >>>> >>>> If you want to see what a donation only game as old as TF2 looks >>>> like, all you have to do is look at COD4. The top servers there >>>> are dominated by the cheapest servers. If you are donation only be >>>> honest with yourself: >>>> >>>> - How much are you paying out of your own pocket? Why is it >>>> immoral to just break even when modelers used to release free on >>>> Gamebanana are now making tens of thousands a month on the Mann Co >>>> Store? >>>> >>>> - Do you really have the best server that can be offered to >>>> players? The answer is most undoubtedly no. Even the fastest >>>> servers choke on 32 players at times and Valve's own servers >>>> couldn't even handle 24 players until they restricted FPS to 66. >>>> >>>> - How long have you been around? When you first start a community >>>> you will get a lot of money, but this does not last as communities >>>> like Firepowered have figured out. >>>> >>>> Most of the people here wouldn't be so excited about killing off >>>> ad supported servers if they didn't think they would get more >>>> players from it. Really why would you care about ads to the point >>>> you are excited about removing functionality from your own >>>> servers? If we're going to have a real conversation about MOTDs >>>> let us be honest about this at least. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM, DontWannaName! >>>> <ad...@topnotchclan.com <mailto:ad...@topnotchclan.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If servers were able to survive for the past 10 years why do >>>> we need ads now? It used to be you create a good community or >>>> your servers die. Now it's lets out up tons of ads and let my >>>> sub par servers survive without the need of a community. In my >>>> opinion servers should be running to foster a community, it's >>>> a game not a billboard for COD. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5 >>>> >>>> > On Nov 8, 2013, at 9:49 AM, hutch <hu...@halsplayground.com >>>> <mailto:hu...@halsplayground.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I don't want quick-play players to see the ads either. Not >>>> on my servers at least. But I do know I want them to see and >>>> ignore my motd, not a txt file. >>>> > >>>> > If you do not know what I was rambling on about, I rest my >>>> case. You confuse the html issue with the sanction of ads. >>>> > >>>> > Hutch >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> archives, please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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