Need I also remind you that 'on topic' is referring to *[hlds] Community Servers and the Gun Mettle Update*, not MOTDgd. If you have a valid complaint about MOTDgd then please either contact them or if you think it's appropriate then open a new thread where the conversation is relevant to the thread's subject. Thanks.
On 4 September 2015 at 11:35, Pat Stay <patsta...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sure, we can stay on topic > > >Paul ubyu....@gmail.com via > <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> > list.valvesoftware.com > 2:49 PM (15 hours ago) > > > >to Half-Life > >Need I remind you, or anyone else, that ads weren't the sole problem. The > big problem was some large server farms sending false player information to > the master server, and servers not following quickplay rules. > > by this you must mean your affiliate partner who used to run 150 tf2 idle > servers that exploited false player information to no end and farmed ads > for your company motdgd. dont sit here acting like your shit ad system > wasnt part of the ongoing problem. people could farm 30,000 ads from you > per day using fake identities and text mode. but you knew that being a tf2 > community owner. so essentially you're right, its not the ads themselves > that are the problem its the people like you serving them fraudulently then > hiding behind some dead link email address trying to veer the topic away > from advertisements so no one knows you are one of the scumbags behind the > problem > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How about we stay on topic here? >> >> On 4 September 2015 at 10:42, Pat Stay <patsta...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >Paul ubyu....@gmail.com via >>> <https://support.google.com/mail/answer/1311182?hl=en> >>> list.valvesoftware.com >>> 6:47 AM (22 hours ago) >>> >to Half-Life >>> >Fact is I don't believe they care anymore, mostly motivated on ways to >>> make more profit than community support :(. >>> >>> >>> >>> irony, brought to you in part by the thieves of motdgd >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Alexander Corn <mc...@doctormckay.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm getting them as well, just set up a filter in Gmail to route those >>>> messages to the trash. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apologies for going off topic, but I keep getting spam from different >>>>> emails from someone called 'Amy Happy' via this mailing list. Other than >>>>> unsubscribing from this mailing list or changing email address, is there >>>>> any way I can stop this spam mail being sent to me (I assume others here >>>>> are getting these messages to from her)? >>>>> >>>>> On 3 September 2015 at 21:41, Ross Bemrose <rbemr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There are a few things added even just recently that are aimed >>>>>> squarely at community servers. >>>>>> >>>>>> One big example of this is the Map Workshop. Valve servers don't use >>>>>> the map workshop... it exists solely to make it easier to run a community >>>>>> server without needing to host maps on your server (or Fast Download >>>>>> server). It may have taken 3 months, but it looks like all the bugs have >>>>>> finally been ironed out of it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Even minor things like changing the passtime cvars so that they >>>>>> aren't marked as cheats were done for community servers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Does this make up for separating community servers from official >>>>>> Valve servers? Probably not. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for the business model, it's pretty clear why QuickPlay was >>>>>> introduced into the game if you look at *when* it was introduced. Valve >>>>>> servers and Quickplay were introduced in the Uber Update, the same update >>>>>> that made the game free to play. >>>>>> >>>>>> In other words, it was introduced as a hook to get people to play the >>>>>> game and spend money. >>>>>> >>>>>> It wasn't really a surprise to anyone who used QuickPlay that Valve >>>>>> eventually changed it to default to Valve servers... people already >>>>>> explained the reason why further up the thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's also not a surprise that Gun Mettle contracts are restricted to >>>>>> official servers. If they weren't, some enterprising person would write >>>>>> a >>>>>> server script that duplicates the actions needed to award points and just >>>>>> use it to farm from a ton of accounts, which would in turn drive down the >>>>>> value of economy items. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:05 PM, ICS Staff <i...@ics-base.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 2005, community servers were first party servers, there were no >>>>>>> Valve servers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2014, community servers are 3rd party servers, Valve servers give >>>>>>> you XP, drops from missions, players get directed only to Valve servers >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> community servers are in separate pool completely. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What's next, you take away the drops too or are you really going to >>>>>>> do something to keep us running servers or not? Too afraid to have open >>>>>>> discussion about the matter? Yeah, thought so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -ics >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ross Bemrose >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >
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