I admit my previous posts were a bit too whiney and even offensive at some points, so ill try again.
A fact is that VALVe does this all to maintain control. There is a big chance plugins like NeoTF and WC3 are simply impossible because VALVe does not like them. We are forced to use a menu that requires us to enter the vgui. That is just annoying. The flexibility of the HL1 engine is what made it so popular. People are mainly mad because they are afraid cool, dynamic plugins won't be possible in the near future because "VALVe thinks thats in the hands of the mod developer and not a plugin dev/admin" and thinks that setting a double firerate on a person that picked up a rune is a cheat. (You got to know OzDM to understand what I mean) Alfred is directly related to AdminMod. AdminMod is an outstanding plugin, hell, I idle the IRC channel every day. But people wanted more. They saw how dynamic AMXMod was and decided to switch. All because AdminMod was just too restrictive and didn't offer the flexibility plugin developers wanted. Then people started to make stuff like Runes, Snarks, tripmines and of course the immensely popular WC3 under AMX. AdminMod got more and more abbanonded because of this. With HL1 there was a choice; the flexible (but near abusive) AMXMod or the convenient (but too restrictive) AdminMod. Now we are forced to use restricted plugins, and that really freightens me. The possibilities of the Source engine are just too awesome to "abbandon" with server plugins. Custom classes under HL2DM, runes, CTF, extra games modes, hell even vehichles for CS... it all would be possible if VALVe would give the plugin devs some space to breath and allow them to use these "hacks" since they don't plan to implemenent stuff like this theirselves. If they change some stuff, it would be the responsability of the plugin developers to adjust it to the new update. Maybe the plugin devs could make an auto-update feature in their plugin. The hacks can't do any harm so VALVe has nothing to loose. I hope I clarified the wish of the admins and players a bit more without starting to "rant". _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux