Didn't they use ASM (at least in the Source Engine leak, but that's  
very outdated, not to mentioned possibly illegal) for the Sound Engine  
and parts of mathlib?

Thanks,
- Saul.

On 18 Aug 2009, at 21:53, Gary Stanley <g...@velocity-servers.net>  
wrote:

> At 03:36 PM 8/18/2009, Ronny Schedel wrote:
>
>> It's not forbidden to mix diffent programming languages, I am sure  
>> they also
>> use Assembler codes. The problem can also occur in C++, because  
>> they trust
>> the client that it sends a valid string, but it can send anything.
>
>
> They only use assembly code to in startup to get the CPU MHZ via 2
> calls to rdtsc.
>
>
>
>
>>> Thats not right ;)
>>>
>>> The programming language is the problem in this case. Why should i  
>>> write
>>> my code with functions that shouldnt be used with C++?
>>> C++ works with the stdlib, which means streams. Not C stuff. So its
>>> finally up to Valve to write programs which follows C++ standards  
>>> not C.
>>> You cant trust your users as programmer. Its up to us, to make the
>>> source safe, and if the projecttime needs 2 weeks more, you should  
>>> spend
>>> the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ronny Schedel schrieb:
>>>> The problem is not the programming language, the problem is that  
>>>> Valve
>>>> trust
>>>> their game clients too much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Well,
>>>>>
>>>>> Valve should start coding c++ with steams ;)
>>>>> Who works with printfs today?
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope Valve will fix the whole source to prevent overflows.
>>>>> C++ is you friend, not old C stuff...
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Stefan Popp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Claudio Beretta schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, anyone knows if a workaround is available?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW: aren't "security researchers" supposed to contact the  
>>>>>> developers
>>>>>> before
>>>>>> releasing 0-day exploits?This is the 2nd 0-day exploy from  
>>>>>> aluigi in a
>>>>>> few
>>>>>> weeks -.-
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Morgan Humes <mrh9...@lanaddict.com 
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A friend forwarded me this info regarding a vulnerability.  I am
>>>>>>> unable
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> test this at the moment, but it does look like it is possible.
>>>>>>> Thought
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> would get this out to the community before others start using  
>>>>>>> this to
>>>>>>> cause
>>>>>>> havoc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.vupen.com/english/advisories/2009/2296
>>>>>>> http://aluigi.altervista.org/adv/sourcefs-adv.txt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Morgan Humes
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