I understand the concern for public server compliance. Our servers are almost exclusively private and have been so for 9 years, so we're probably not the center of your concern. But my primary concern is to make our servers available to our community as simply as possible. And requiring the player to do the Valve console "two-step" just to connect to a community server is counter productive. Add to that the misinformation/guess-timation of cvar interactivity and Valve's secret feature addition/deletion du jour, and we have quite a party. Not an IW-level party, but you know what I mean. ;)
Players should understand the new dynamics of the lobby and forget the old pick-a-server list...agreed. But the system has to work, first. When all versus lobbies are redirected to local hosting/P2P, when empty servers are available, someone has messed up priorities. If we want the users to change, we need to eliminate the need to hack the system. --Kerry On Nov 23, 2009, at 4:36 PM, ics wrote: > > Sadly some people exploit the system and have some server forced to > for > example versus all the time and lobby system is getting false data. > Perhaps this is why mp_gamemode was disabled for L4D2. I know i've > been > in L4D1 multple times on random lobby and the game is set to coop > expert and then lobby throws us to the versus only server and it might > have some mod that has disabled voting, so no one can actually get > back > to the lobby with the same group. > > This is propably what some people here are trying to do in the first > place. Have different servers for 1 gamemode, while the gamemode could > be just set on lobby and so on. What is important now, is that you > forget the old pick a server from the list and join it method. What > should be used is mm_dedicated_force_servers "" as a lobby host and > then > server is picked that way. Note that multiple servers can be listed > and > it should be lobbysystems job to reserve a server and set the > appropriate game mode. Sadly people still have to revert to console > commands like this and server cannot be picked from the list at > lobby or > pre-reserved that way which makes things more complicated. > > -ics > > Shane Arnold kirjoitti: >> That's what we are saying. With most modifications that you make to >> the >> server, it will change tags to suit, the same way in TF2 where if you >> turned crits off it would add the tag "nocrit" or something >> similar. The >> way the lobby system works is when you chose a mode and then when it >> displays the servers, it is looking for those tags. So if you chose >> survival in the lobby system, it would display servers with >> "survival" >> in their tag string. >> >> I think you are getting us mixed up with forcing a server into a >> mode, >> as opposed to a server showing up as that mode in the lobby system. >> >> gamead...@127001.org wrote: >> >>> It _must_ broadcast it somehow, because joining via steamgroup >>> only show >>> servers of the currently selected type... no idea how to find out >>> though >>> To the OP: can I ask why it matters? Collecting stats or >>> something else? >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- >>>> boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics >>>> Sent: 23 November 2009 15:33 >>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Left 4 Dead 2 Dedicated Server Available >>>> >>>> sv_showtags will show what mode the server is on and what >>>> gamemodes the >>>> server supports. You can limit these with sv_gametypes. For example >>>> this >>>> would force server to obey only coop and survival, sv_gametypes >>>> "coop, >>>> survival" >>>> >>>> -ics >>>> >>>> Kerry Dorsey kirjoitti: _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
