Will "alias jpeg" and "alias screenshot" prevent this from taking screenshots?
2012/9/10 Drogen Viech <drogenvi...@googlemail.com>: > He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is > installed so i can avoid all those servers > > 2012/9/10 ics <i...@ics-base.net>: >> Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature >> existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries to >> exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing >> else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but >> that's what it does. >> >> I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters than >> VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC >> doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every >> single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. >> >> -ics >> >> 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: >> >>> The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes >>> screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in >>> anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed >>> >>> 2012/9/10 ics <i...@ics-base.net>: >>>> >>>> I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best >>>> solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see what >>>> it >>>> does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do something >>>> that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server plugins >>>> that were able to execute commands on clients. >>>> >>>> -ics >>>> >>>> 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: >>>> >>>>> (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows >>>>> and >>>>> Linux servers) >>>>> >>>>> The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the >>>>> server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a >>>>> client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author of >>>>> the >>>>> plugin; you did catch that part, right? >>>>> >>>>> The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of >>>>> ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, you >>>>> have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you >>>>> may >>>>> have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the easiest >>>>> thing to read. >>>>> >>>>> So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game >>>>> client's security. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an awesome >>>>>> feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on >>>>>> VAC as >>>>>> extra proof of cheating. >>>>>> >>>>>> No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature exists >>>>>> on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday >>>>>> and >>>>>> already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No >>>>>> desktop >>>>>> shots, just ingame footage. >>>>>> >>>>>> -ics >>>>>> >>>>>> 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* >>>>>>> tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about >>>>>>> privacy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2012/9/8 lwf <l...@rocketblast.com>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having >>>>>>>> something like Greenlight to go through those... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but please, >>>>>>>> at least consider releasing a "stable" version with that doesn't open >>>>>>>> connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no >>>>>>>> offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd really >>>>>>>> like to use this, we should have had this long ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . <anakin...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working >>>>>>>>> back in January on a plugin that can detect: >>>>>>>>> - POTENTIAL triggerbotters >>>>>>>>> - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) >>>>>>>>> - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Triggerbots: >>>>>>>>> To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, the >>>>>>>>> detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I do >>>>>>>>> then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not >>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>> someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool to >>>>>>>>> help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just >>>>>>>>> check >>>>>>>>> the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Prediction hacks: >>>>>>>>> I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it >>>>>>>>> detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is an >>>>>>>>> engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's >>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>> used for various no spread/low spread hacks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The detections get printed to a log called TriggerBotDetections.log >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all >>>>>>>>> players >>>>>>>>> have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this >>>>>>>>> otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your >>>>>>>>> server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple reason >>>>>>>>> for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, >>>>>>>>> especially >>>>>>>>> if someone is getting detected a lot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Download: http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>>> AnAkIn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
