You mean all the cheaters can avoid that server? 2012/9/10 Drogen Viech <drogenvi...@googlemail.com>
> He should atleast force a tag into sv_tags when this plugin is > installed so i can avoid all those servers > > 2012/9/10 ics <i...@ics-base.net>: > > Like i said you wouldn't even care if you didn't know about such feature > > existed on this plugin. Anakin isn't some mojo from backalley who tries > to > > exploit everyone. Plugin takes screenshots that reveal cheaters. Nothing > > else. Granted, you don't know that for sure as it isn't open source but > > that's what it does. > > > > I¨'m all in for extra tools to get cheaters out as we ban more cheaters > than > > VAC catches (if we look back 2 months after ban was issued by us, VAC > > doesn't get nearly all of them). I'm even helping with reporting every > > single cheater through Steamcommunity because i know it also helps. > > > > -ics > > > > 10.9.2012 17:54, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: > > > >> The difference is that it's common knowledge that punkbuster takes > >> screenshots, whereas it is done in some obscure and hidden way in > >> anakins plugin, i really hope these exploits are going to be fixed > >> > >> 2012/9/10 ics <i...@ics-base.net>: > >>> > >>> I know what it does and i'm fine with it. Open Source isn't always best > >>> solution especially on anticheat systems as cheat developers can see > what > >>> it > >>> does and do countermeasures. I'm also pretty sure Valve will do > something > >>> that kills the screenshot feature as they did long ago to server > plugins > >>> that were able to execute commands on clients. > >>> > >>> -ics > >>> > >>> 10.9.2012 17:40, Ross Bemrose kirjoitti: > >>> > >>>> (I added hlds to the To list as well, since this affects both Windows > >>>> and > >>>> Linux servers) > >>>> > >>>> The problem is that it appears to be running client commands that the > >>>> server isn't supposed to have access to. AND uploading files from a > >>>> client's machine back to the server. AND sending them to the author > of > >>>> the > >>>> plugin; you did catch that part, right? > >>>> > >>>> The plugin's author won't even send the source code to the admins of > >>>> ETF2L, let alone anyone else. Which means, unless you decompile it, > you > >>>> have no idea what it's doing. Heck, even if you DO decompile it, you > >>>> may > >>>> have no idea what it's doing... decompilation isn't exactly the > easiest > >>>> thing to read. > >>>> > >>>> So... you have Security by Obscurity that is itself bypassing the game > >>>> client's security. > >>>> > >>>> On 9/10/2012 10:35 AM, ics wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Presumably it's all there in the SDK and i have to say it's an > awesome > >>>>> feature. If i would have to guess, Valve propably uses same thing on > >>>>> VAC as > >>>>> extra proof of cheating. > >>>>> > >>>>> No one wouldn't even be alarmed if they didn't know such feature > exists > >>>>> on this plugin or on the server they play on. I tested this yesterday > >>>>> and > >>>>> already got 1 cheater caught. Besides, it only takes screenshots. No > >>>>> desktop > >>>>> shots, just ingame footage. > >>>>> > >>>>> -ics > >>>>> > >>>>> 10.9.2012 16:47, Drogen Viech kirjoitti: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> What the hell? Servers can tell the client to take screenshots *and* > >>>>>> tell them to upload them to the server? Whatever happened about > >>>>>> privacy? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2012/9/8 lwf <l...@rocketblast.com>: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > http://etf2l.org/forum/general/topic-21038/page-24/?recent=406717#post-406387 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This is absolutely brilliant, great job! Now just imagine having > >>>>>>> something like Greenlight to go through those... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm not even going to bother asking you to open source it but > please, > >>>>>>> at least consider releasing a "stable" version with that doesn't > open > >>>>>>> connection (no auto-update or reports to you or anywhere else, no > >>>>>>> offense) and has no undocumented features (now or later). I'd > really > >>>>>>> like to use this, we should have had this long ago. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 7:23 PM, AnAkIn . <anakin...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> As Valve is too lazy to do anything about hacks, I started working > >>>>>>>> back in January on a plugin that can detect: > >>>>>>>> - POTENTIAL triggerbotters > >>>>>>>> - Prediction hacks (crit hacks/no spread hacks) > >>>>>>>> - An anti-speedhack bypass exploit > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Triggerbots: > >>>>>>>> To make it clear as some people I gave it to didn’t understand, > the > >>>>>>>> detection is kind of “heuristic” (I won’t explain in detail, if I > do > >>>>>>>> then the cheat coders will bypass it in no time), so it’s not > >>>>>>>> because > >>>>>>>> someone got detected that he is surely cheating. It’s just a tool > to > >>>>>>>> help you find people that can potentially cheat and you can just > >>>>>>>> check > >>>>>>>> the STV demos then to confirm that they cheat or not. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The most detections for a single person in the less timespan you > >>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>> find in the log, the more likely he is using a triggerbot. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Prediction hacks: > >>>>>>>> I guess this is what will interest most people on this list, it > >>>>>>>> detects the crit hacks that does 100% crits all the time which is > an > >>>>>>>> engine exploit which has been added into many hacks lately. It's > >>>>>>>> also > >>>>>>>> used for various no spread/low spread hacks. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> The detections get printed to a log called > TriggerBotDetections.log > >>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>> tf/ (and are also sent to me) on EVERY MAP change or when all > >>>>>>>> players > >>>>>>>> have disconnected from the server. It’s important to note this > >>>>>>>> otherwise you could loose all the detections (especially if your > >>>>>>>> server automatically restarts every night). There is a simple > reason > >>>>>>>> for this: writing in a file while you play can cause lags, > >>>>>>>> especially > >>>>>>>> if someone is getting detected a lot. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Download: > http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/TriggerBotDetector.zip > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> Best regards, > >>>>>>>> AnAkIn > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >>>>>>> archives, > >>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>> please visit: > >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>>> please visit: > >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >>> please visit: > >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
