Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 13:19:42 -0400
From: epichat...@litewin.net
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] TriggerBot/Prediction hack(Crit hack/No spread)
detection plugin
Would be nice if valve added a legitimate way for server admins to grab
screenshots if they are going to patch this exploit. Considering the
screenshots only take an in-game image the only people to have reasons
against it are hackers themselves.
--EHG
On 9/10/2012 1:04 PM, Ryan Stecker wrote:
> There's clearly a lack of understanding in this thread.
>
> The plugin simply executes 'jpeg' or 'screenshot' on the client (which
> is
> the exploit everyone is talking about), and uses the client's
> INetChannel
> (an interface in the source engine) to have the server request the file
> from the client.
>
> It can't take a screenshot of your desktop, or steam chats, or anything
> else other than the game's screen. The jpeg command has only ever taken
> screenshots of your game.
>
> Really there's two sides of the coin on the issue of making clients
> execute
> commands.
>
> On one side, malicious server operators could do bad things, and on the
> other, it made it possible for an anticheat to get client screenshots.
>
> I would have loved it if this plugin could have survived longer, but it
> seems like the command execution method is being fixed. I'd kill to get
> a
> proper anticheat in source, and not the flawed disaster that is VAC.
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 11:58 AM, ics <i...@ics-base.net> wrote:
>
>>
http://tftrue.redline-**utilities.net/anakinac.html<http://tftrue.redline-utilities.net/anakinac.html>
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> 10.9.2012 19:52, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti:
>>
>> So really it just takes a screen shot of whats on their screen and
>> then
>>> uploads it to the game server / FTP? and then at a later time you look
>>> through them and see if someone had a wall hack on. Is there anything
>>> else
>>> that it can detect as really a screen shot isn't useful in most other
>>> hacks.
>>>
>>> On 9/10/2012 9:49 AM, ics wrote:
>>>
>>>> You need to check the screenshots yourself that it picks. Makes one
>>>> once
>>>> in an hour.
>>>>
>>>> PS: cl_allowupload 0 doesn't block uploading the shot. This plugin is
>>>> simply awesome tool for every server owner that wants to catch
>>>> wallhackers
>>>> and such.
>>>>
>>>> -ics
>>>>
>>>> 10.9.2012 19:46, Cameron Munroe kirjoitti:
>>>>
>>>>> Asher? Can you give us an example, or some info on the subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/10/2012 9:31 AM, Drogen Viech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I assume you have to go through all of them on your server, the no
>>>>>> spread and trigger bot detection is fully automatic, other
>>>>>> heuristic
>>>>>> detections are printed to your console
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe <cmun...@cameronmunroe.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, I mean how would you use this to detect if someone is
>>>>>>> cheating?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/10/2012 9:23 AM, Drogen Viech wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It takes a screenshot randomly, only anakin knows when (he said
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>> 10 or so minutes)
>>>>>>>> He's using some really fucked up kind of exploit - not even the
>>>>>>>> following config will prevent it from taking screenshots:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=**Xr39hrys<http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Xr39hrys>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2012/9/10 Cameron Munroe <cmun...@cameronmunroe.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So how does this work?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It takes a snapshot every X minutes and then you have to go
>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>> them?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It takes a snapshot when someone is cheating?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It slows down the cheaters computer by making them take
>>>>>>>>> 100000000000000000000000000000**0000 snapshots a sec?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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