So.. am i the only one that see discussions in here without actually
somebody drilling up the list of issues? In the first mail of Cameron
there is no list of issues, not even what game type it is. Even though the
mail is not "nice" at least include what the hell is wrong for others to
know what you are talking about. From experience, talking about it
constantly can pay off. Talking about it and then going on the F word
train usually doesn't.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Emil
Larsson
Sent: vrijdag 28 december 2012 8:37
To: [email protected]; Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing
list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Once Again Valve Doesn't Care About Server
Owners

You act like running a server was a job that you signed up to when it's
completly volountary. Either way you really need to calm yourself down,
the map makers probably didn't get as far as much as the item contributors
(despite that making a proper map is quite a bit of work), so Valve is
attempting to fix it with the overhauled map contribution system. And I'm
sorry, but their contribution to the game is larger than one man server.

Valve is not leaving bugs in on purpose. And anti-cheat is hard, other
than literally making the server do everything but that is unfeasible to
do on the current source engine. :P

Reports on Steam community helps but it's not an automatic action. Valve
does not do manual VAC bans unless it's a extraordinary case (see the
Golden wrench thing), and most likely Valve dosen't act on reports unless
there been several from unrelated users. I do believe that Valve does use
the "cheater" reports to gauge their own VAC so it does help for them.

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Cameron Munroe
<[email protected]>wrote:

> We sit here asking for the smallest favors to fix a massive issue on
> our servers, which happens to effect valve servers as well, yet they
ignore us.
> Yet, if you make a map they send you free stuff, give you tons of
> credit, and bow down to you.
>
>
> -- Just wonderful, thanks Valve!
>
> --
>
> Cameron Munroe
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