Can you all go rant somewhere else. Some of us don't have your problems. They have forums for a reason please use them or email them directly. On May 9, 2016 8:14 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why could you not blame Valve? They are 100% fully to blame for the current > state of community servers. I am not sure why you think they had no choice > and no one should complain. > > You cannot expect every single random person to follow the rules. Did Valve > close free2play because servers are being plagued with hackers using > lmaobox and making a new account in 20 seconds? No? Then why are all > community servers being punished for this identical situation? > > The TF2 team was extremely lazy in handling this matter, not even willing > to spend 1 hour a month cleaning up reported servers, and decided to "fix" > the issue by essentially giving up. All they had to do was ban a few > servers every month taking up less than an hour of their time. Even if they > cannot get rid of cheating 100%, it would still be better than what they > are doing now. > > All we can hope for now is that Overwatch kills TF2 to show them a lesson, > but they would probably just keep trying to emulate Overwatch as much as > possible rather than reversing all the decisions they made to kill > community servers. > > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Erik-jan Riemers <riem...@binkey.nl> > wrote: > > > TF2 had its best time... it would have been longer if not for this. As a > > community owner for 8+ years i have always tried to do good by the rules > of > > Valve. Only to find tons of servers that don't obey those rules. Valve > > tried its best to counter them but ended up hurting the communities that > > didn't do anything wrong. I can't blame Valve, but the experience is bad > > these days, we used to have a "all maps" server where high division > players > > would come and play, making it interesting for people with skills. Only a > > few 'custom' servers are still alive these days, but haunted by cheaters > > and people that just want to troll and mic spam. No admins are there > > anymore because nobody wants to babysit a server full of kids. Slowly > > closing my TF2 servers. (It's been fun while it lasted) > > > > Regardless, thanks Valve for the times we did have a great experience for > > community's. Perhaps one day we might see a TF3. > > > > 2016-05-05 0:48 GMT+02:00 Vivien FRENOT-MATHEVON < > vivien.fre...@gmail.com > > >: > > > > > Still waiting for a fix. :( > > > > > > Le jeu. 5 mai 2016 00:11, Andreas Willinger <aw...@gmx.at> a écrit : > > > > > > > So, Valve, maybe you should update your Wiki and add "temporary" as > > > > "forever" (https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time) > > > > > > > > Two years, various suggestions have been posted, like improving the > UI, > > > > some > > > > sort of verified server system and others, yet not even a single word > > > from > > > > Valve. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we finally get some sort of response or will we wait until TF2 is > > > > entirely full of braindead, 12 year-old weekend warriors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original text for anyone interested: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "At this time, we are keeping the default quickplay option to Valve > > > > servers. > > > > However, note that if a player wants to find a server with any of the > > > > supported modifications, then they must land on a community server, > > since > > > > Valve servers do not run with these settings." > > > > > > > > Posted by Fletcher Dunn on February 8, 2014. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux