Erik-jan Riemers that was the hay day, it's gone now, in my opinion it died with TFC.
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:50 AM, Erik-jan Riemers <riem...@binkey.nl> wrote: > I remember the day we had 300+ euro a month, from donations "random people" > without the need of those **** ads. (and yes that all went to servers) > > Anyways, if Valve just had something like: New players play for xx hours on > Valve server then they would be put to the community servers. Or a popup > that asks the user "do you want to switch to community servers?" or at > least have 2 buttons on the main screen "quickplay valve/quickplay > community" or something like that since they basicly pushed community > servers away onto the server tab where new players just don't look. > > Not to mention that all the restrictions Valve put in place to stop the bad > guys, or bad hosters only made those guy change tactic but still exist > today. But it hurt the right people, destroying their effort into their > free community, non ads, non cheaters. > > Honestly, even if Valve says today "Your right, we will change it right > now" i think it will be too late to get an active rush of people back into > the game. New games came out and people move on too. Overwatch is a half > copy of TF2, sentry's , push a payload etc etc.. but even that could > wander of pretty fast.. why? Because i do believe the community with the > sourcemodding on top of it made TF2 big. Never seen so many mods, same for > css and the other srcds titles. > > Anyways, if you take things in comparison, how many people still support a > game this old? Perhaps they just know its a dead end and only support > minimum intrest and focus on other things like their platform itself. Short > story, they made enough cash on this cow.. perhaps its time to butcher it > so we can get some dry aged meat for later :P > > 2016-05-10 9:29 GMT+02:00 Paul <ubyu....@gmail.com>: > > > I agree with Robert. I've been playing Overwatch recently and when it's > > fully released I doubt I'll play TF2 anymore. Blizzard appears to > > acknowledge feedback from my initial observations where Valve no longer > > seems to be and appears to have not done so for a long time, > unfortunately, > > which isn't good. > > > > On 10 May 2016 at 08:24, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Well congratulations for being a special little snowflake? Now shut up > if > > > you are not going to say anything useful in a thread related to > community > > > server issues, in a mailing list specifically made for community server > > > issues, instead of telling us to go to a forum where no Valve employee > > ever > > > reads. > > > > > > I am willing to bet most of us here are/were part of communities that > did > > > not host on lowest quality $5 servers. We remember a time when > community > > > servers were filled for 12 hours a day, every single day of the week. > > > > > > It seems like you only started your server in the past year or so since > > you > > > don't know that countless solutions have already been offered and that > > > community servers used to have many more players. There's nothing left > to > > > do but to call out Valve on their inaction and total alienation and > > > betrayal to their community server players/customers. > > > > > > On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Aaron Thompson <rmesc...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > And i pay $5/month for my server so im not crying so much. I can > afford > > > to > > > > be patient. > > > > On May 10, 2016 12:51 AM, "Aaron Thompson" <rmesc...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Never played quickplay, don't ever intend to, my only gripe was > after > > > > > free2play and it lasted like 5 minutes. I can honestly say that I > > have > > > no > > > > > way to contribute to this arguement. However, I CAN say that > instead > > > of a > > > > > bitchfest...why dont you all find a solution that is viable and > > present > > > > it > > > > > to them. If that wad done already, again I do not know anything in > > > > regards > > > > > to this situation. They have continuously updated the game with new > > and > > > > > user created content, nerfing and otherwise and the only problem I > > have > > > > is > > > > > with a certain population of players who ruin the game for everyone > > > > > else...and NO I dont just mean LMAObox users. If anyone killed TF2 > it > > > is > > > > a > > > > > percentage of the people who choose to spend their time there > making > > > the > > > > > game unplayable. > > > > > On May 10, 2016 12:05 AM, "Eli Witt" <eliw...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Awww, are you ou mad that people who've invested countless > hundreds > > of > > > > >> hours and personal dollars into running Valve's game for them > have a > > > > >> legitimate complaint against valve for acting like a bunch of > > ignorant > > > > >> douchebags? > > > > >> > > > > >> You can feel free to unsubscrive too. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Aaron Thompson < > rmesc...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > Can you all go rant somewhere else. Some of us don't have your > > > > problems. > > > > >> > They have forums for a reason please use them or email them > > > directly. > > > > >> > On May 9, 2016 8:14 PM, "Robert Paulson" <thepauls...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Why could you not blame Valve? They are 100% fully to blame > for > > > the > > > > >> > current > > > > >> > > state of community servers. I am not sure why you think they > had > > > no > > > > >> > choice > > > > >> > > and no one should complain. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > You cannot expect every single random person to follow the > > rules. > > > > Did > > > > >> > Valve > > > > >> > > close free2play because servers are being plagued with hackers > > > using > > > > >> > > lmaobox and making a new account in 20 seconds? No? Then why > are > > > all > > > > >> > > community servers being punished for this identical situation? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > The TF2 team was extremely lazy in handling this matter, not > > even > > > > >> willing > > > > >> > > to spend 1 hour a month cleaning up reported servers, and > > decided > > > to > > > > >> > "fix" > > > > >> > > the issue by essentially giving up. All they had to do was > ban a > > > few > > > > >> > > servers every month taking up less than an hour of their time. > > > Even > > > > if > > > > >> > they > > > > >> > > cannot get rid of cheating 100%, it would still be better than > > > what > > > > >> they > > > > >> > > are doing now. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > All we can hope for now is that Overwatch kills TF2 to show > > them a > > > > >> > lesson, > > > > >> > > but they would probably just keep trying to emulate Overwatch > as > > > > much > > > > >> as > > > > >> > > possible rather than reversing all the decisions they made to > > kill > > > > >> > > community servers. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Erik-jan Riemers < > > > > riem...@binkey.nl> > > > > >> > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > TF2 had its best time... it would have been longer if not > for > > > > this. > > > > >> As > > > > >> > a > > > > >> > > > community owner for 8+ years i have always tried to do good > by > > > the > > > > >> > rules > > > > >> > > of > > > > >> > > > Valve. Only to find tons of servers that don't obey those > > rules. > > > > >> Valve > > > > >> > > > tried its best to counter them but ended up hurting the > > > > communities > > > > >> > that > > > > >> > > > didn't do anything wrong. I can't blame Valve, but the > > > experience > > > > is > > > > >> > bad > > > > >> > > > these days, we used to have a "all maps" server where high > > > > division > > > > >> > > players > > > > >> > > > would come and play, making it interesting for people with > > > skills. > > > > >> > Only a > > > > >> > > > few 'custom' servers are still alive these days, but haunted > > by > > > > >> > cheaters > > > > >> > > > and people that just want to troll and mic spam. No admins > are > > > > there > > > > >> > > > anymore because nobody wants to babysit a server full of > kids. > > > > >> Slowly > > > > >> > > > closing my TF2 servers. (It's been fun while it lasted) > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Regardless, thanks Valve for the times we did have a great > > > > >> experience > > > > >> > for > > > > >> > > > community's. Perhaps one day we might see a TF3. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > 2016-05-05 0:48 GMT+02:00 Vivien FRENOT-MATHEVON < > > > > >> > > vivien.fre...@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > >: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > Still waiting for a fix. :( > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Le jeu. 5 mai 2016 00:11, Andreas Willinger <aw...@gmx.at > > > > a > > > > >> écrit : > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > So, Valve, maybe you should update your Wiki and add > > > > >> "temporary" as > > > > >> > > > > > "forever" ( > > > > https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time) > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Two years, various suggestions have been posted, like > > > > improving > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > UI, > > > > >> > > > > > some > > > > >> > > > > > sort of verified server system and others, yet not even > a > > > > single > > > > >> > word > > > > >> > > > > from > > > > >> > > > > > Valve. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Can we finally get some sort of response or will we wait > > > until > > > > >> TF2 > > > > >> > is > > > > >> > > > > > entirely full of braindead, 12 year-old weekend > warriors. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Original text for anyone interested: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > "At this time, we are keeping the default quickplay > option > > > to > > > > >> Valve > > > > >> > > > > > servers. > > > > >> > > > > > However, note that if a player wants to find a server > with > > > any > > > > >> of > > > > >> > the > > > > >> > > > > > supported modifications, then they must land on a > > community > > > > >> server, > > > > >> > > > since > > > > >> > > > > > Valve servers do not run with these settings." > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > Posted by Fletcher Dunn on February 8, 2014. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > >> > > archives, > > > > >> > > > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > >> > archives, > > > > >> > > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > >> archives, > > > > >> > > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > >> > > please visit: > > > > >> > > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > >> > please visit: > > > > >> > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > >> please visit: > > > > >> > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
