I believe this is accurate.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com>
Date: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:27 AM
To: John Jason Brzozowski <john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com>, Michael
Thomas <m...@mtcc.com>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>, Mark Townsley
<m...@townsley.net>, Dave Taht <dave.t...@gmail.com>, Jari Arkko
<jari.ar...@piuha.net>, "homenet@ietf.org Group" <homenet@ietf.org>, David
Lamparter <equi...@diac24.net>, Lorenzo Colitti <lore...@google.com>
Subject: Re: [homenet] NPTv6-only home networks

>On 2/24/13 9:41 AM, Brzozowski, John wrote:
>> DLNA seems to have some challenges seeing how IPv6 is relevant for them
>>in
>> the future, I think UPnP has done some work however upper layer
>> protocols/applications must still require the use of the same.
>Practically speaking, iirc they have to some challenges to make their
>toolchain work across more than one subnet.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com>
>> Date: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:24 AM
>> To: Joel Jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com>
>> Cc: Lorenzo Colitti <lore...@google.com>, Michael Richardson
>> <mcr+i...@sandelman.ca>, Mark Townsley <m...@townsley.net>, Dave Taht
>> <dave.t...@gmail.com>, Jari Arkko <jari.ar...@piuha.net>, John Jason
>> Brzozowski <john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.com>, "homenet@ietf.org Group"
>> <homenet@ietf.org>, David Lamparter <equi...@diac24.net>
>> Subject: Re: [homenet] NPTv6-only home networks
>>
>>> joel jaeggli wrote:
>>>> On 2/21/13 7:04 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
>>>> So, I think what we can observe from the number of readily
>>>>discoverable
>>>> security cameras on the internet. was that the real-live requirement
>>>> was
>>>> at least partially solved thanks to upnp and dynamic dns registration,
>>>> is not a geek-only-oddity, survives renumbering, and was for the most
>>>> part done quite badly. hopefully it can be done better in the future.
>>> I was under the impression that upnp is exactly what we should not be
>>> aspiring to,
>>> but that we'll get by default (like natv6) if nothing useful happens in
>>> ietf.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>
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