Auditions?? Vacancies?? Two rounds??

Remember Erik Ralske?

But I agreed with hans, "also serious appearance on stage or even in the
pit" is important.

Happy day.

Rafael Arias

2010/8/9 Hans Pizka <[email protected]>

> But then I have to ask you, how it comes, that many high ranking & very
> well paid positions remain vacant for years ????
> My orchestra, just an example, has three horn vacancies out of total ten
> positions. But they are vacant since two seasons (my former position, which
> was occupied by a young lady for just a year, as she did not make it
> further), respectively for over one season (a low horn & a third horn). They
> had several unsatisfying auditions, ceased after the first two rounds.
>
> Many first horn positions vacant, waiting several years to be filled.
>
> How come, if there are so many superb players out there ???
>
> Technical skill & perfection is just one side of the medal, serious
> musicality & knowledge the other side.
> I will not talk about experience, as a superb & ambitious player will gain
> that in a short time in the job.
> Being an excellent musician requires also vast knowledge about culture,
> musical history, composers,
> harmony, intuitive reaction to the unforeseen in the literature, prima
> vista play, which means
> jumping into the music, taking on the composers skin & dive in,
> also serious appearance on stage or even in the pit & a lot more.
>
> And as a surprise, some players fresh from music academy will get the job
> finally. Why ? They did not
> look to left or right, having their target in mind - the top of the top -
> ALWAYS. They are the most
> self critical players who do never give up. They know their limitations at
> all stages.
>
>
> ###############################################################################
> Am 09.08.2010 um 16:59 schrieb William.S.Gross:
>
> > Hans,
> >
> > 1.  Following is perhaps an over simplification of the situation
> >
> > 2.  I am not addressing horn player in question, but where you find the
> best.
> >
> > Could it not be that there are fewer positions available than there are
> great horn players.  One source list as 20 the number of top symphonies in
> the US.
> >
> > If those positions are filled might a really good player make the hard
> decision to give up music and seek another career?
> >
> > Of course, if spending time with a major orchestra is a key part to the
> development process, disregard the above.
> >
> > (Or in the words of that great commentator on American life, Emily
> Letella, "What? Oh!  Nevermind.")
> >
> > On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Hans Pizka <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> The recording done in the studio nicely. Nobody knows how many versions
> they need - and this is not important. But everyone can see that the video
> was made using play-back technique. For what else reason should he wear big
> earphones ????
> >>
> >> Yes, I know a lot of self believed world class players who were hindered
> the entry to the professional orchestra by "intrigues only", as they would
> have blown all competitors out of the hall anyway.
> >>
> >> Just another most welcome old myth.
> >>
> >> Nobody of them has ever thought about the own personality which might
> have to do with his or her not being accepted to the orchestra or not being
> invited to the audition for the same reason. I had to do with such people,
> who ruin every section.
> >>
> >> Their EGO ruins even the compositions, upsets the conductors, personal
> managers, creates fight with concertmaster & other wind players.
> >>
> >> I know this gentlemen from Italy, whom we nicknamed "distonato Inglese",
> even he has much talent - as a player. But that is not all. Seriosity is
> requested even from people who are a bit or more crazy.
> >>
> >>
> #######################################################################################################################
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 09.08.2010 um 12:59 schrieb Sandra Clark:
> >>
> >>> Well, I liked it quite a bit, and found his phrasing NOT
> over-done...but
> >>> taste is in the ear of the beholder, as we all know.
> >>>
> >>> My guess about the video is that he's being artistic...and attempting
> to
> >>> offer the eye more than just the act of playing horn and piano.  If
> there
> >>> are edits in the recording, I can't hear them - and who out there
> releases
> >>> unedited commercial recordings?  (yes...I know Hans and some others of
> you
> >>> will now flood the list with all the amazing artists...1st chair major
> >>> orchestra players all, right?...who have released totally perfect and
> >>> unedited recordings...)
> >>>
> >>> I do think it's possible that one can be a fine...perhaps even world
> >>> class...horn player and NOT be sitting first chair in a major
> orchestra.  I
> >>> know of one around here...but won't name him as some here might think
> he
> >>> names himself world class...and he simply is too classy a guy to go
> around
> >>> bragging.  But he has no major orchestra job - but is...well, he's
> quite
> >>> amazing...Nuf said...
> >>>
> >>> We should beware of getting too high up on our horses...it's a long
> fall -
> >>>
> >>> Sandra Clark
> >>> NOT a major orchestra horn player...
> >>> Toledo Ohio
> >>>
> >>>
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