No worries, they'll fix it "manana." -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hans Pizka Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 1:58 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Interesting IHS Forum post
Me too, i have to add One Experience in Sao Paulo few Weeks ago in a 5 Star Hotel there. I bought me a 24 hrs Internet Access for 7.-USD. You Know what Happen ? They Turned off the Router between 11:00 PM and 07:00 AM ...... Nothing to add to such stupidity & ignorance .... Von meinem iPad gesendet Am 08.06.2011 um 07:11 schrieb Hans Pizka <[email protected]>: > Hello John, > > The Problem is just, that Most Latinos are INFLEXIBLE and UNWILLING to adopt anything from > The OTHER WORLD. That is my Experience. But there are exceptions. Who remembers Antonio Iervolinos very interesting Horn method ? Made with His Best intentions > But impractical . > > Von meinem iPad gesendet > > Am 07.06.2011 um 22:08 schrieb John Baumgart <[email protected]>: > >> Sounds like little blue brackets with "citation needed" are called for in this case. Or perhaps a "disputed information" tag. >> >> If he were to publish something that contained a lot of fingering information, would he notate fingerings under his "thumb = F horn" rule, or under what he admits is the traditional setting? Would he feel compelled to footnote his fingerings with his non-traditional assertion? Are there parallels to be drawn in etudes of yore written with ascending 3rd valve horns in mind? >> >> I'll also disagree that "T" should necessarily be avoided, as someone can easily be told what it means, just as the 'pp' dynamic does not mean "plenty powerful." What should be used in its place? Besides, fingering notations typically are very limited in practical use, mostly to: >> >> 1) Introductory instruction, in which case the teacher should know what he is doing enough to explain what a fingering notation means. >> 2) Indication that an exercise is to be played on all one fingering, in which case it should be obvious to the reader what the fingering means (once again, are exercises written for ascending 3rd valve horns explicitly so noted?) >> 3) A personalized reminder that a passage is best fingered in a specific way, in which case I can use whatever notation is best for me, because the next person is likely to erase it and put their own reminder there. >> >> John Baumgart >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dan Phillips" <[email protected]> >> To: "The Horn List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2011 8:46:16 AM >> Subject: [Hornlist] Interesting IHS Forum post >> >> Ricardo Matoshinos has made an interesting post on the IHS Forum (http://www.hornsociety.org/en/network/ihs-forum) about notation of horn fingerings using T to indicate Bb horn. He makes the following statement: >> >> "Today most of the world play mostly in Bb-F horn instead of the traditional F-Bb so now in fact thumb means F horn..." >> >> While I certainly agree that T notation is ambiguous and should, for that reason, be avoided in any kind of international context, I wonder if the above statement is true? >> >> IHS members, feel free to comment directly in the thread on the forum :-) >> >> Dan >> >> ==================== >> Dan Phillips >> Associate Professor >> Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music >> University of Memphis >> www.prizmensemble.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/john.baumgart%40com cast.net >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.ne t _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
