Bill, what happened to me was this: I was doing a lot of mouthpiece buzzing... which I have always done and still do... but had let the tip of my tongue move up from the very the bottom of my mouth to right behind my teeth. I had done this so gradually that I did not notice the change. But it had a major change on my horn sound.
Try this: buzz on your mouthpiece and gradually move your tongue up behind your teeth and then back down into your mouth. You should notice a radical change in the sound of the buzz. Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired ________________________________ From: William Bard <[email protected]> To: The Horn List <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:42:53 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues I think the position of the tongue is likely a big factor in this. Some days, my tonguing feels great and the easiest thing in the world, and other days it feels like a rock that I'm having to lug back and forth in my mouth. Not easy at all. I'm hoping this will clear up during college and in the years after, as I gain more consistency. I can buzz without the mouthpiece, but I have a VERY tough time doing so. It's difficult to actually create pitches I want, without the mouthpiece. -William Bard On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Milton Kicklighter wrote: > Don't forget the position of the tongue when you are playing. I got into > real > trouble a few years back not paying attention to the position of the tongue >when > > I was playing. Years ago I found that leaking air for me was to much > pressure > and not enough muscle control. Can you form a embouchure and buzz without > the > mouthpiece? Or do you pinch your lips together when you try to buzz? > > > Milton > > Milton Kicklighter > 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic > Retired > > > > > ________________________________ > From: William Bard <[email protected]> > To: The Horn List <[email protected]> > Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 1:05:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Articulation and 'airy' sound issues > > The edges are closed tightly, yes. And thanks for the suggestion about the > Italian language! I'll definitely look into that. Thanks. > > -William Bard > > On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:52 AM, Hans Pizka wrote: > >> William, are the edges of your lips (embouchure) closed tightly, so air >> cannot > >> escape there ??? >> Next, do not use that much air. Do not blow air into the horn actively. >> Better, >> >> just release air >> according to pitch, dynamic etc. >> Third, study Italian language, to learn about clear vowels, absolutely clear >> vowels, and clear consonants. You will wonder, how that would improve your >> playing, special tongue action. >> >> Good luck ! >> ################################################# >> Am 27.06.2011 um 04:38 schrieb William Bard: >> >>> I've been playing the horn some seven years, having just graduated high >>> school, >>> >>> and I will begin attending the Eastman School of Music this fall for a >>> degree >>>in >>> >>> Horn Performance. However, before I get up there and start school, I really >>> thought I should ask the members of this board for some advice on an issue >>> (I > >>> think it's an issue...) I've been noticing lately in my playing. >>> >>> Back in February I had a lesson with Rick Solis out in Cleveland, and he >>> pointed out that often times, when I articulate, it sounds almost as though >>> the >>> >>> tongue is rebounding, or something is happening to make the tonguing not >>> quite >> >>> so clear and more blatty sounding. I've especially noticed this when I play >>>loud >>> >>> or technically difficult passages. >>> >>> >>> He and Rich King both pointed out to me in my audition for the Cleveland >>> Institute of Music that it was something I really have to work on and fix >>> over >> >>> the next few years; otherwise it could spell big problems for my playing. >>> They >> >>> said it will "hopefully go away" over time, but this still really worries me. >>> >>> In addition, I can't help but notice an extra sort of buzz to my sound, >>> when I >> >>> play. At times, it is even very airy sounding. I can't figure out yet if >>> this >>>is >>> >>> my horn that is vibrating ever so slightly along with the pitches I'm >>> playing, >> >>> or if this is an internal sound that I'm hearing as the note vibrates >>> through >>>my >>> >>> mouth and possibly through my teeth, or what the heck this is. >>> >>> >>> Obviously, when I take the horn away and buzz on the mouthpiece, it's not >>> just >> >>> the sound of the note I hear, as I can also hear the air flow moving >>> through >>>the >>> >>> mouthpiece. Is tongue placement or something else possibly amplifying the >>> airflow or sound of my buzz, so that it becomes noticeable IN ADDITION to >>> the > >>> sound of the horn, itself? >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions or advice regarding this? Or, furthermore, >>> is >> >>> this truly an issue, or is it actually somewhat normal? This is really >>> puzzling >>> >>> to me and I really hope to get it figured out before it's too late! Thanks >>> so > >>> much. >>> >>> -William Bard >>> _______________________________________________ >>> post: [email protected] >>> unsubscribe or set options at >>> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/hpizka%40me.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [email protected] >> unsubscribe or set options at >> https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/wdbard%40me.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com >m > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/wdbard%40me.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
