This is almost as fun as the old days when Hans would go on a rampage. He mellowed quite a bit over the years. Only difference is, Hans has an international reputation as a truly stellar horn player. Luke Zyla
On Aug 9, 2011, at 4:32 PM, DB wrote: > > > > WR> I agree that constant hawking of products can be annoying, but it is a > fine line between that and just being enthusiastic. But maybe if you are > going to criticize others you should use your real name. > > > RS. Thank You for agreeing. My name is Ralph Snake > > > WR. If you want to watch someone who uses BE, go on You Tube and watch > Steven Park. > > > RS. I have and he does not bunch his chin. He also sounded just as good > before he studied the method. > > > WR. it is also odd that you claim that if you follow Jeff's instructions > "to the letter"...see above, etc. Really? I guess there must be a bunch of > players out there that are injured that we don't know about. > > RS. If you are playing a record session early morning a Mahler Sym reh and > another session in the afternoon and the Mahler concert that night you > better have good playing mechanics. A bunched chin will leave you open for > injury. > > > WR. You can hurt yourself following anyone's instructions, especially if you > don't read them carefully. > > > RS I did. The front page contains pictures and also throughout the book. > Classic Bunched Chin. He also says a flat chin is not desirable. > > > WR. The exercises are meant to free up your movement and give you insight on > things that you might not get otherwise. > > RS. Yes they do that even without bunching. > > WR. It is not meant to be taken as specific instructions, per se. > > RS. Read the book look at the pictures they could not be more specific. > > > WR. Yes, most great players do not bunch their chins, but that is a > resultant and not real methodology. A firm chin can become a frozen chin of > steel too, with no help at all to your playing. > > > RS. Thank you for agreeing. No one is talking about frozen chins. > > > WR. Bunching the chin is NOT a goal of BE anyway. > > RS. Not according to the book > > WR. By the way, Cindy Lewis is not the foremost expert on horn injuries, and > neither am I. I don't know who is. She did write a book, though, which has > some good info. > > RS. She is the only one out there interviewing players and doctors on the > injuries of horn players so if you don't know of anyone else then she is the > foremost expert on horn injuries. The books she wrote are very helpful for > someone coming back from an injury. By the way I don't recall anyone of > accusing you of being the foremost expert on anything. > > WR. There are a lot of sources of information about playing injuries from > all instruments out there, though. There are things in her book that could > be easily questioned on here if someone wanted to. > > RS. Same goes for your book and DVD > > > WR. Playing injuries is a subject that could use a lot more research, and it > is something that teachers should be more concerned about. > > RS. I agree > > WR. And just for the record, i do not teach BE. Not because I don't like it, > but because i haven't had time to try it enough myself and i was working on > a similar track that I wanted to finish before I compared it to Jeff's > stuff. I just might take some lessons with Jeff, because pedagogy and good > methodology interests me. The fact is, that there is a lot of pedagogy out > there that is pretty worn out and potentially misleading or really only > effective on a hit and miss basis. > > RS. Good For you. > > WR. I do advocate learning to roll the lips in and out for better range and > movement between the ranges. I don't teach it like Jeff does, but i have > talked to him on the phone and it sounds like we are on the same track. > > RS. And you can also do that with a flat chin. > > > WR. If you or anyone else wants to read my thoughts on the subject and get > some FREE exercises, you can go to the Addendum and Extras page on my > website and download the exercises, complete with history and instructions. > I also demo it on my DVDs. Let me know what you think. Maybe discussing my > stuff a bit would take the edge off this whole BE thing. Whatever. > > RS. I did and there wasn't anything I was interested in. > > Sincerely, > Wendell Rider > For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the DVDs, go to > my website: www.wendellworld.com > > RS. Wendell Apparently, I inadvertently stepped into your area of > expertise. I apologize. Your whole post was designed to make me look > foolish. You cannot do that because I do that very well on my own. Whew! I > have been rebuked and from now on I will stay out of your area of expertise. > > > Have a Good Day! > > Ralph Snake > Hornplayer Extraordinaire > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/dbhorn%40nc.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ > post: [email protected] > unsubscribe or set options at > https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/lzyla%40suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
