On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:00 AM, [email protected] wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:08:47 +0900
> From: Simon Varnam <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] BE issues and spamming.
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>> 
>> If you want to watch someone who uses BE, go on You Tube and watch Steven 
>> Park.
> I did. Amazing! But I don't see him rolling his lips...
> 
> However...
> I hadn't realised how much excellent stuff there is out there on Youtube and 
> soon got bytracked.
> 
> One thing I'd thought could be useful is a set of the Kopprasch exercises, 
> showing how to make them into music rather than dull drills. Someone has 
> started on it already....
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/user/jboldin
> 
> Is this guy using BE?
> 
> SPV

Hi Simon,
My take on this is that most good players use more lip rolling than we would 
think, by old standards. Whether it is BE or not is another story. I don't mean 
rolling lips in over the teeth or out so much as to lose the set point on the 
lower lip. In most ranges, you can't see it at all. It's just a technique. I 
demonstrate this on my DVDs. You can use a lot less lip tension up high by 
simply thinking of rolling in more than tightening the lips. It really doesn't 
look at all like the BE exercises some people have been referencing. It's just 
the action of rolling in a bit to go up and out to go down. You adjust 
according to the sound and the results you want. There is no quantitative 
method, just a relative thing.
In the lower register, an outward movement can save you a lot of jaw movement 
and make a better, more resonant sound because the soft tissue of the lip comes 
more into play. As you go higher the harder facial tissue comes more into play 
and makes the notes easier without all the tension. in between you just think 
of rolling in and out instead of tightening and loosening. I never tell my 
students to tighten and loosen any more- just in and out. It also works better 
for kids with braces. Steve Park does this. 
If you watch a great low player like Sarah Willis, you will notice that she 
doesn't drop her jaw that much relative to what she gets out of the horn, but I 
have never asked her about this. I watched the great artists at the symposium 
and al of them seem to do this to some extent.
I would say the guy doing the Kopprasch is doing it too. He has a good 
embouchure. He plays the Kopprasch more musically than most of the people on 
there, but there is still more to be had, imo.
So it is a balance of techniques, not one or the other. if you are interested 
further I have a download on this page of my web site
Addendum and Extras
if that link doesn't work, go to my website and get onto the Addendum and 
extras page.
It is number 1 on the list. It is a pdf file you can download and print.
I am writing a little book on the musical aspects of Kopprasch. The thing is, 
everything you do should be done from a musical/phrasing point of view. 
EVERYTHING. That is what my new book (in progress) is about.
Sincerely,
Wendell Rider
For information about my book, "Real World Horn Playing" and the DVDs, go to my 
website: www.wendellworld.com



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