Duddddddddddd, So what is new. 2/3 1/3 has always been the norm for the horn!!..I THINK... Yes there are some that do 1/3 2/3rds.... usually thought of as the trumpet embouchure and what I did when I was a trumpet player.... Smooth chin.... means you are not pinching!!!.... And if you can do it a,"formed" opening in the embouchure that looks like the opening of an oboe reed. Also means you are not pinching. Is there something very different in the B E that is different than that?? Or is the method in the B E a way of moving to that configration? I know there are a few really "great" players that use what would be considered the normal trumpet placement of the lips on the mouthpiece... 1/3 top lib..2/3 lower lip. and they are "really really" great players. Bruno Snyder being one of them and from the photos of the Dennis Brain embouchure, he is another one. But I think they are the exception and not the norm. And if you look closely at Dennises lips, his upper lip has a little extension in the middle that is down. Sorry don't know to explain what I see better. A picture would be much better. But don't orget Dennis did not like to play the Haydn concertos because of the diffuculty he had making the big skips to the lower notes. If it works use it! If it doesn't then don't! But why the heck don't we start with the normal... I know the question has been asked as to what is normal...but if it works with 90%of players, why not start with that. Just my rambling.
Milton Milton Kicklighter 4th Horn Buffalo Philharmonic Retired From: Howard Sanner <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Hornlist] BE issues and spamming. > >Quoting Simon Varnam: > >>> >>> If you want to watch someone who uses BE, go on You Tube and watch >>> Steven Park. >> I did. Amazing! But I don't see him rolling his lips... > >Valerie and I have had an offlist exchange about this. I have watched >quite a few of Mr. Park's videos, most before his name was ever >mentioned in connection with BE. I watched several more a few days >ago, after he was described as someone who follows BE principles, to >refresh my mind. > >What Mr. Park does is what I have always been taught and what I would >teach my students if I had any: firm corners, pointed chin (what it >was called in my day; nowadays this seems to be called a flat chin), >minimal to no movement outside the mouthpiece, more or less 2/3-1/3 >(pace, Wendell!) mouthpiece setting. > >I think the overwhelming majority of good players (and some >not-so-good players like me) do this. > >So if Mr. Park exemplifies playing using BE, what does he do that gets >everyone so upset, and what is so revolutionary about what he's doing >(or about BE, for that matter)? > > > >> One thing I'd thought could be useful is a set of the Kopprasch >> exercises, showing how to make them into music rather than dull >> drills. Someone has started on it already.... >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/jboldin >> >> Is this guy using BE? > >I'll have to look at this one. I don't believe anyone can turn >Kopprasch into music, not even John McCormack, who sang a lot of crap >and, at least while he was singing it, could make you think that the >Goldbergs and Op. 131 were the work of talentless hacks by comparison. > >Howard Sanner >[email protected] > > >_______________________________________________ >post: [email protected] >unsubscribe or set options at >https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/kicklighgter%40yahoo.com > > > _______________________________________________ post: [email protected] unsubscribe or set options at https://pegasus.memphis.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
