Hello Benno, verzapf doch nicht diesen Unsinn, bitte. The main tuning slides need to be pulled out, as the horn is designed to fit different environment. Temperature has a certain influence to tuning. Orchestra tradition is different in the world. USA orchestras have a lower "a" than European orchestras. And these orchestras have even a lower "a" than in Vienna.
But the horns should fit all three regions, which means main tuning slides be pushed in much for Vienna, pulled out much for the use in the USA. But all within the limitations of one or 1 1/2 centimeters (main tuning slide). A pulled out slide CANNOT cut out some unevenness. In contrary it produces some unevenness in the tube, - like a little step. Just imagine a larger tube & a smaller tube inside. Think about the mechanical function of two tubes, when one tube sticks inside the other & is pulled out a bit. Ooops, I know about the German schooling quality. Natural science classes ......... Basic common knowledge .... please, please. No wonder people believe on superstition, reading in the palm, believing the stars , etc. And the few "Professionals" playing with all slides in, are using a very strong VIBRATO, where intonation means nothing anyway, as the pitch shifts around permanently. I know these players very well. Once in my master class, a student came to me with his horn, all slides pushed in completely. I asked him: why. He responded that his idols did the same. So I told him, that he had just one single choice: he should continue following his idol but never expecting a job as a horn player - and never wasting my time again ============================================================ -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Benno Heinemann Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:21 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] tuning the horn Leaving all the Slides in is certainly not good Advice. I can think of one or two Exceptions of Professionals who play well who do this, but not for a student who may not have developed strength or good Ears to play all the Notes in tune in spite of it. I like to push the main Slide all the way in, and then tune the F and B Slides down a little accordingly. I think it cuts out some unevenness just after the Leadpipe. Frank Lloyd told me this. (I believe this is not possible on some Horns where the F and B Horns are difficult to tune together) Greetings, Benno Heinemann On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 08:16 PM, william bamberg wrote: > That advice is so bad that you should seek another teacher. Having the > slides tuned by an experienced player, if you're not ready to do it, is > the proper first step to learning how to do it for yourself. I play > several horns regularly and find that I need to tune each horn as close > as possible to a standard so that my tendency to lip notes is > consistent > from horn to horn. Although an electronic tuner doesn't really tune > the > horn, certain patterns are easily remembered and set. Often, the > player > prefers my settings to theirs because they've never given it much > thought. > > Julius Pranevicius wrote on 5/3/2004, 10:03 AM: > >> My new teacher said that it is not neccesary to pull >> out valve slides for new horn at all(only the main >> tuning slide should be adjusted). He said that i >> should adapt myself to horn, not the horn for myself.. >> >> I tuned my horn following the article in february's >> Horn Call and for Bb horn there was about 1cm, and for >> F - 1,5-2cm. Is it normal? And what do you think about >> tuning the horn, adjusting valve slides? What methods >> of tuning you know and preffer?? >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________ >> Do you Yahoo!? >> Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs >> http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover >> _______________________________________________ >> post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> set your options at >> http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/wunderhorn%40freenet.de > _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans.pizka%40t-online.de _______________________________________________ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
