Hans, being from across the Atlantic, does not comprehend that school musical groups are not unionized. Mara does not have access to the shop steward to help her with this problem. You all know how that goes, shop steward goes to second horn and says "Mara says you have a problem, I'm your problem."
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pandolfi, Orlando Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 8:00 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section Good idea. And then when he comes to the next rehearsal with his father's sawed off shot gun, be sure to duck. Is Marcus Bona making Kevlar horn cases these days? Honestly, Hans, I thought we Italian-Americans were known for our dark sense of humor, but I must admit, you have us beat. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hans Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 3:30 PM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section Hello Mara, with this kind of disrespectful individuals there is just ONE cure: Play a wild clam here & there & look at him, but very convincing that HE was the one with the clam. After two or three times doing so (even in the concert) he will get red face any time you clam, voluntarily or by chance. The conductor will act & fire him. If all does not help, get two of your best friends & wait for him. Give him a strong warning, very earnest & with modest words & voice: "If you dont stop your nasty attitudes, well, you will get your "face polished"." This is not the finest method, but it works in most cases. And it is necessary for the sake of the orchestra & the band. We had a superb method, used once in every single case. Catch the boy, pants down & polish his ass with black shoe polish, really polishing by a brush. But do not forget, putting a (potatoe) sack over his head first. He will have a hell, removing the black "ass". But you & your friends should take care, not to hurt him. This is the rough antic educational method, a very successful method for special individuals. The other methods with polite talking with all parties involved, they sound much better, but are fruitless mostly. World is that like, sorry. ============================================================ ===================================================== -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mara Cushion Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 5:01 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section Hey all, I was wondering if anyone might give me suggestions as to how to deal with a disrespectful section member. I am section leader for both the top band and orchestra at my school and there's one kid in particular who keeps giving me attitude. I have much more experience than he does in music on and off the horn, so I am confident in the decisions I make. However, the 2nd horn, doesn't want to listen to what I tell him to do. He's mouthy and rude to me and thoroughly enjoys making me look bad in front of the entire ensemble. He points out my mistakes to everyone and won't stop talking until he's made sure he's succeeded. He raises his voice across the top of the ensemble and is just flat out defiant. I am 4 years older than him and have been playing horn at least that much longer than him. Last year, when I wasn't section leader, he never acted like that, but now it's constant. I don't know how to gain control of the situation and it would be nice if he just kept quiet. I understand if he has a valid question, but I feel it is rather disrespectful for him to be pointing out my mistakes. Can anyone offer me any suggestions of things I might say to him or at least gain some control? I don't want to be a bitch and lose my cool. Thanks, Mara _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pandolfi%40deerfield.edu _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net _______________________________________________ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
