Debbie, I have no experience with Giulini, but did several
concerts with Leinsdorf & Solti.  So I cannot agree with
you, that they were not verbose, in contrary, both could
explain very well how they wanted the things, very
illustrative indeed. Well, we had no problems to understand
Leinsdorfs fine nuances in the language as we all spokethe
same language as mother language, which might make a big, a
very big difference. And Solti, I think that German was also
his second mother language. He was the boss of my orchestra
after WW2. You should have heard him explaining R.Strauss´
Don Juan. Never heard it explained better. Or watch the
"Golden Ring" documentary with the VPO. But you need to
understand the fine nuances in German. Or Bernstein ? Just
two words explained everything. If the right words are used,
just few words will make it. And these calibers were full of
fun. Fischer-Dieskau once asked Klemperer if he could attend
one of his concerts, but Klemperer asked why. I will conduct
Schuberts Great ! Let me check my calender (Klemperer), yes,
yes, I might be free that night, but, but I have to attend
George Solties "Liederabend", sorry. 

Sawallisch knew when & where & why singer errors could
happen during a performance, but he could repair them BEFORE
they happen. I have witnessed that on many occasions.
Kleiber did not help, - speaking of Carlos -, but he studied
the things very well for himself first, even inserting
special instructions into the several parts by himself, -
and he could talk colours enormously, even his German
vocabulary was very short, but he had just the right terms.
Watch his Fledermaus, Woyzzeck, Rosenkavalier, Tristan,
Freischuetz, Othello (nearly all his repertory regarding
opera), oops, he did two Bohemes & one Madame Buterfly with
us without rehearsal. You could read everything from his
face (I played both Bohemes). Another performance (La
Traviata) was cancelled due to a singer illness (the tenor
had to leave the stage & the famous aria was jumped, when we
did the first of the La Traviatas in that series) and
Kleiber asked for a change in the program, Pavarotti was in
town and sang Rodolfo, can you imagine that excitement. The
audience really boiled but came to tears (no exaggeration !)
& we too. We were so moved. It was the music, the great
singers AND Carlos Kleiber. Muti uses a thin vocabulary but
all words are placed right, and his great discipline when
conducting. The greatest advantage of these great conductors
is their ability to LISTEN, to listen what´s coming from the
various players in the pit or on stage and just use what´s
being offered to them or even fine tuning the one or the
other phrase or voice.

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Hans, I agree conceptually, but let's talk about an older
generation of conductors so as not to offend, Leinsdorf,
Solti and Guilini none of which in my experience in
rehearsal were colorful or verbose. All were passionate all
could move you and the audience. So I would suggest that
there is an unspoken chemistry between conductor and
orchestra and an unspoken respect that goes both ways that
also comes into play. 

Debbie
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