Thanks Kevin. I just updated the map, and I have to say the clusters of "verified" damage seem actionable from a task planning standpoint: https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map I look forward to seeing your post about this.
This data could be very valuable to incorporate. Pierre, is there a tech working group that focuses on the task manager? -Bill On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:08 PM Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Thanks Kevin, > > will look at this validation data. > > > Pierre > ------------------------------ > *De :* Kevin Bullock <kbull...@digitalglobe.com> > *À :* 'William Morris' <wboyk...@geosprocket.com>; Pierre Béland < > pierz...@yahoo.fr>; "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org> > *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 29 avril 2015 17h24 > *Objet :* RE: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around > > Pierre, Bill, I can confirm the imagery source is the same. Meaning, the > imagery we licensed openly was used both by HOT (via Mapbox) and on the > Tomnod platform. I am actually putting a blog post together on this topic, > and this thread has been **very insightful**. Barrier of entry is indeed > one of the huge differentiators! As an example, my kids can participate on > Tomnod, but need another decade or so before they can contribute to OSM J. > As such, we are seeing (I believe) a higher volume of contributors via > Tomnod: over 25,000 unique contributors so far. > > So far, here is what the Tomnod team has validated, AND, here is a link to > the GeoJSON: > > 488 Damaged Buildings Verified, 36 Damaged Roads Verified > Download the Validated geojson: > https://s3.amazonaws.com/tomnod-james/nepal_earthquake_2015_15448_validated.geojson.json.zip > > Sincerely, Kevin > > > > > *From:* William Morris [mailto:wboyk...@geosprocket.com > <wboyk...@geosprocket.com>] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:26 PM > *To:* Pierre Béland; hot@openstreetmap.org > *Subject:* Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around > > Hi Pierre, > > I think we're already using the same imagery; it's entirely from > DigitalGlobe, and the Mapbox crew processed that and made it available to > us within hours of it being released (Camilla or Charlie - correct me if > I'm wrong). The issue is that participants (~5,000 people this time) in > DigitalGlobe's Tomnod project are deriving basic damage assessment data > from the same imagery, and that information isn't making it to OSM. > > The two ideas I outlined below are just sketches for how we could make use > of that derived data to save time and effort, though there are surely many > more possibilities. > > -Bill > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:36 PM Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: > Sorry after 5 non stop days dont have time to digest everything. > > We surely have to coordinate with others and not repeat what they have > done. This imagery would be useful for OSM response to have general > evaluations of villages + roads. We can also provide access to TMS images > to hums and Nepal gov. > > Monitoring is uneasy with all the imagery requests, imagery available > from various sources. > > It would help that the image monitoring uMap be completed with all the > tasks and available imageries. > > http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/2015-nepal-earthquake-contributions-via-the-task-m_37675#8/27.946/85.518 > > Do we have easy access to these imagery used for evaluation. Do we have > tms link to easily use. Could the info be added to the uMap? > > regard > > *Pierre * > > ------------------------------ > *De :* William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com> > *À :* "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>; > robert.so...@gmail.com > *Envoyé le :* Mercredi 29 avril 2015 13h05 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around > > > My bad - Robert pointed out that I pasted the wrong source data link > in there (it was for TomNod Haiyan). Here's the Nepal data: > https://t.co/zzSX2qrelM > > -Bill > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:56 PM William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com> > wrote: > Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the > TomNod effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit > OSM use): > - map: > https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map > > - data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/ > > It seems like there might be an opportunity in future activations (or > now) to use this data for: > > 1.) Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment > we're probably going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should > be able to configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of > damage reports and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of > this idea: https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048) > 2.) Direct import - this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity > to directly link TomNod contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged > buildings seems like a possible starting place. > > There are many technical considerations to be ironed out, including the > realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a streaming API > of some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task manager. In > the meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays: > > > https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist > > Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and > leverage another motivated group of contributors. > > -Bill Morris > > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > > >
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