Hi Bill
For now, only the leaders of the activation. But we need help.
Responsabilities to define. Below are some thoutghts.
With the new post-imagery coming in, there are various products that can be
made. It would be possible to monitor the informal camps with the successive
post-disaster imagery available. Evaluation of villages and roads are other
aspects to examine to help orient the response in remote areas.
People interested, please contact activat...@hotosm.org
Pierre
De : William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com>
À : Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr>; Kevin Bullock
<kbull...@digitalglobe.com>; "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 avril 2015 22h01
Objet : Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around
Thanks Kevin. I just updated the map, and I have to say the clusters of
"verified" damage seem actionable from a task planning standpoint:
https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map
I look forward to seeing your post about this.
This data could be very valuable to incorporate. Pierre, is there a tech
working group that focuses on the task manager?
-Bill
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 8:08 PM Pierre Béland <pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote:
Thanks Kevin,
will look at this validation data.
Pierre
De : Kevin Bullock <kbull...@digitalglobe.com>
À : 'William Morris' <wboyk...@geosprocket.com>; Pierre Béland
<pierz...@yahoo.fr>; "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 avril 2015 17h24
Objet : RE: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around
Pierre, Bill, I can confirm the imagery source is the same. Meaning, the
imagery we licensed openly was used both by HOT (via Mapbox) and on the Tomnod
platform. I am actually putting a blog post together on this topic, and this
thread has been *very insightful*. Barrier of entry is indeed one of the huge
differentiators! As an example, my kids can participate on Tomnod, but need
another decade or so before they can contribute to OSM J. As such, we are
seeing (I believe) a higher volume of contributors via Tomnod: over 25,000
unique contributors so far. So far, here is what the Tomnod team has
validated, AND, here is a link to the GeoJSON: 488 Damaged Buildings
Verified, 36 Damaged Roads Verified Download the Validated geojson:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/tomnod-james/nepal_earthquake_2015_15448_validated.geojson.json.zip
Sincerely, Kevin
From: William Morris [mailto:wboyk...@geosprocket.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2015 2:26 PM
To: Pierre Béland; hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around Hi Pierre,
I think we're already using the same imagery; it's entirely from DigitalGlobe,
and the Mapbox crew processed that and made it available to us within hours of
it being released (Camilla or Charlie - correct me if I'm wrong). The issue is
that participants (~5,000 people this time) in DigitalGlobe's Tomnod project
are deriving basic damage assessment data from the same imagery, and that
information isn't making it to OSM.
The two ideas I outlined below are just sketches for how we could make use of
that derived data to save time and effort, though there are surely many more
possibilities. -Bill On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:36 PM Pierre Béland
<pierz...@yahoo.fr> wrote: Sorry after 5 non stop days dont have time to digest
everything. We surely have to coordinate with others and not repeat what
they have done. This imagery would be useful for OSM response to have general
evaluations of villages + roads. We can also provide access to TMS images to
hums and Nepal gov. Monitoring is uneasy with all the imagery requests,
imagery available from various sources. It would help that the image
monitoring uMap be completed with all the tasks and available imageries.
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/2015-nepal-earthquake-contributions-via-the-task-m_37675#8/27.946/85.518
Do we have easy access to these imagery used for evaluation. Do we have tms
link to easily use. Could the info be added to the uMap? regard
Pierre De : William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com>
À : "hot@openstreetmap.org" <hot@openstreetmap.org>;robert.so...@gmail.com
Envoyé le : Mercredi 29 avril 2015 13h05
Objet : Re: [HOT] TomNod integration for the next time around My bad -
Robert pointed out that I pasted the wrong source data link in there (it was
for TomNod Haiyan). Here's the Nepal data: https://t.co/zzSX2qrelM -Bill
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:56 PM William Morris <wboyk...@geosprocket.com>
wrote: Kevin Bullock of DigitalGlobe has graciously shared the results of the
TomNod effort so far, licensed CC 3.0 (with a plan to specifically permit OSM
use): -
map:https://geosprocket.cartodb.com/viz/bb5ed630-ee1e-11e4-8dca-0e018d66dc29/embed_map
- data: http://mapperdev.tomnod.com/results/ It seems like there might be
an opportunity in future activations (or now) to use this data for: 1.)
Planning and prioritization - as we move into damage assessment we're probably
going to be a step behind the TomNod participants; we should be able to
configure tasks that focus on areas with a high concentration of damage reports
and high levels of agreement. (I can't claim origination of this idea:
https://twitter.com/iheartcrowds/status/593170666662146048) 2.) Direct import -
this is more dangerous, but there's an opportunity to directly link TomNod
contributions to OSM. High-agreement damaged buildings seems like a possible
starting place. There are many technical considerations to be ironed out,
including the realtime nature of the TomNod data. It could benefit from a
streaming API of some sort, as well as some form of integration in the task
manager. In the meantime there's this somewhat-awkward url for overlays:
https://cartocdn-ashbu.global.ssl.fastly.net/geosprocket/api/v1/map/9ec70f30baf2a63e797ae341c8965733:1430273972053.4001/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png?map_key=dca6cb71991448200cc2ade26ff013da486a78ca&cache_policy=persist
Hopefully this is an opportunity to minimize effort duplication and
leverage another motivated group of contributors. -Bill Morris
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