Rich wrote:
> On 2009.01.12. 07:57, Yuval Levy wrote:
>> So what? If users are happy with the old version, why waste resources on 
>> providing/supporting the new one?
> 
> because for an opensource project your users are your only wealth.

Does not really answer my question. If the users are the project's only 
wealth (something I do not completely agree with) and they are happy 
with the old version, why waste resources on a new one?


> project needs users at least as much as users need the project.
> users mean testing, marketing, new developers...

Agree. Users contribute in many ways. Participation to this list with 
ideas is already a valuable contribution. The only real personal wealth 
is time. Contributed time is IMO the wealth of any open source project.


> having more users on the bleeding edge is best a project can hope for - 
> other projects employ various strategies (even trick) to get more 
> testing for new versions. working against this will only do harm for the 
> project.
> that's the broad look on the project. individual contributors can be 
> motivated by many different factors.

I respectfully disagree your view on the broad look on the project. IMO 
pushing the users too much toward the bleeding edge can kill a project 
(Netscape 5 comes to my mind).

The metric I watch is how many of the users actually contribute. There 
is a trade-off between attracting more users and supporting the existing 
user base. Every minute spent attracting Windows users to the bleeding 
edge is a minute that could have been used to add a new feature for the 
benefit of all existing users.


 > if you feel that your work should be paid for, it's your choice.

I'm not asking that my work be paid for. I am asking that those 
benefiting from my contribution contribute something to the project.

If I had work that I wanted to be paid for, I would ask market rate and 
I would use it to pay my bills, not plug it back into a project bounty.


>>  > Windows users are also accustomed to get stuff for free
>>
>> you mean they don't pay a license fee for Windows?
> 
> i'll bite - yes, 95% of them ;>

And how can users who do not respect intellectual property be an asset 
to an open source project? There is nothing to be pirated here...


>> been there, done that. Click on the thumbnail at 
>> <http://panospace.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/hugin-ships-with-nodal-ninja/>
> 
> that's very cool. too bad canon, nikon and others aren't following the 
> suit (yet) :)

I lack contacts into those big companies. Any help would be appreciated.

That said, they seem to be light-years away from embracing open source 
or any form of collaborative model. Last time I checked Canon was still 
shipping Photostitch with its cameras.

Yuv

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