<<For the materials producted by the those illegaly packaged software,
they are usually legit. >>

Which brings me back to my original point.  If you knowingly use
illegally package software to create a work, do you have a moral right
to be outraged if your work is stolen?

On Dec 18, 3:01 am, "tennevin.yves" <tennevin.y...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
> This has nothing to do with hugin.
>
> Free / nonfree software can be pirated everywhere in the world, what
> ever the local laws allowing this or not.
> Using an illegal copy of a software, being photoshop, hugin, windows or
> God know what is usually the user's responsability.
>
> For the materials producted by the those illegaly packaged software,
> they are usually legit.
> That does not mean the one using them risk nothing.
>
> It just means the copyright status of such medias is unrelated to how
> they were created.
>
> --
> Yves Tennevin / esby <dot> free.fr
>
> http://esby.free.fr/contact.html
>
> DaveN wrote:
> > Copyright is largely ignored in China and other places so can people
> > in those places copy your images or repackage Hugin?
>
> > Bruno:  Where is the other place to discuss Hugin where I can find
> > answers?
>
> > On Dec 17, 7:31 am, "tennevin.yves" <tennevin.y...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:
>
> >> Patents hold no ground in Europe.
> >> The Berne convention can still be applied, what ever the licence you
> >> choose for your image.
> >> And to DaveN comment, I ain't infringing any patent while located in
> >> Europe, so the moralistic opinion is bogus, but copyright laws can still
> >> be applied in Europe.
>
> >> --
> >> Yves Tennevin / esby <dot> free.fr
>
> >>http://esby.free.fr/contact.html
>
> >> DaveN wrote:
>
> >>> Sure the IP rights are separate but that was not the question.  If you
> >>> create an image infringing on a patent, can you in all honesty be
> >>> outraged if someone infringes on your rights to your image?
>
> >>> On Dec 17, 12:39 am, ArAgost <arag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> IANAL and I'm no expert on patents, but note that whatever are the
> >>>> issues with the software, the intellectual property of the image is
> >>>> completely separate.
>
> >>>> On 17 Dic, 06:30, DaveN <tahoedave...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>> The best control point generators out there are SIFT based (or the
> >>>>> software company doesn't tell you what the function is but it sure
> >>>>> seems to operate like SIFT).  SIFT is patented however that patent is
> >>>>> largely ignored on the grounds that such patents don't apply in all
> >>>>> parts of the world.  The current downloads for Hugin barely mention
> >>>>> the patent issue.
>
> >>>>> Copyrights are also largely ignored in some parts of the world.  Using
> >>>>> the same logic as above, is it ok for someone in one of the parts of
> >>>>> the world that largely ignore copyrights to repackage a version of
> >>>>> Hugin and sell it as their own worldwide?  Would it be ok if they did
> >>>>> so and only casually mentioned to the buyer to check their local laws
> >>>>> for any issues that may concern them locally?
>
> >>>>> If someone makes a commercial image from Hugin using a SIFT control
> >>>>> point generator and then posts the stitched image on the Internet and
> >>>>> someone copies it, is that ok?
>
> >>>>> I'll duck now.

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