The bottom line is that he is afraid to tell those patent holders that he is willing to pay them for every image he stitched using their methods. So, he came here to get general public support, but got flame instead. And now he is in double trouble being alone with his shame of using patented method and do not pay for them and without any general public support. He will not sleep well now. ;-)
DaveN, if you so sure that patented products need to be honored and fees payed, go ahead and pay them. Why do you need everyones opinion about it. Not that I am against patented products, but against childish position of individual: "If majority doing it this way it is good and I should follow them". I am sure if you would live in China your mind set would be different. What you are going to do with this general public support? Show group's threads in a court? Leonid Dale Beams wrote: > The question is who is SURF patented by? By a university or an individual? > > There are many patents within the linux/gpl community. However there > are organizations who have purchased and protect those patents against > litigation, opening up use for everyone. > > Patents are being used to protect open source, gpl, and linux in > general, and still allow the use of those patents to anybody. > > Isn't this the same thing that SIFT and SURF have done? > > > > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 19:19:25 +0100 > > Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Moral questions > > From: l.jirkov...@gmail.com > > To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > > 2009/12/18 DaveN <tahoedave...@yahoo.com>: > > > I thought SURF was also patented but maybe it is only the > > > implementation that is copyrighted. I don't know for sure. It would > > > be nice to see a patent-free control generator for Hugin though. I am > > > not a programmer so I wouldn't be much help. Here is the wiki page: > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SURF > > > > > > but you may have that already. > > > > You are still messing things up. SURF (the algorithm) is patented. You > > can patent algorithm (in meaning of technical procedure), but honestly > > there is only slight difference between patented algorithm and > > software patent so it may not be valid everywhere. But speaking about > > the software (implementation) the copyright law applies. > > > > > > > > On Dec 18, 9:41 am, Dale Beams <drbe...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> On that note, have you considered the SURF algorithm? > > >> > > >> It appears that SURF is closed source as well, but there appears > to be an "OpenSURF". > > >> > > >> This would be an interesting research topic. One of Hugin's goals > is to produce it's own auto cp detector or use a GPL version of one. > > >> > > >> Drop a note back on SURF. I'm interested in knowing what you find. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:20:46 -0800 > > >> > Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Moral questions > > >> > From: tahoedave...@yahoo.com > > >> > To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > >> > > >> > <<But I wonder, why are you asking about these patent and/or > copyrighy > > >> > infringement issues?>> > > >> > > >> > It is something that has been bothering me for a long time and never > > >> > really has been discussed in the open. To me, the inventor of the > > >> > SIFT algorithm deserves some benefit for his work but isn't really > > >> > getting it. Sure SIFT has his University's approval for use in non- > > >> > commercial work but that seems to be taken by many a bit liberally. > > >> > > >> > << To me, at first, it was like you are planning to > > >> > release a derivative of Hugin yourself, but apparently I was wrong > > >> > (which is good). Did you spot a Hugin rip-off somewhere? >> > > >> > > >> > You are right in that I have no plans on releasing a derivative of > > >> > Hugin and I don't know of any Hugin rip-offs. I have been > evaluating > > >> > options for Mac 10.6 and it looks like Autopano Pro is my only > > >> > alternative if I want to use SIFT. > > >> > > >> > On Dec 18, 8:53 am, Bart van Andel <bavanan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > On 18 dec, 16:33, DaveN <tahoedave...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > Regardless, I seem to be beating a dead horse here. It is > clear the > > >> > > > feeling here, IMHO, is 'I follow the rules I see fit, ignore > the ones > > >> > > > I don't see as fit, and have no issue in expecting that my > work will > > >> > > > not be infringed upon.' > > >> > > >> > > Luckily, that's just your opinion. > > >> > > >> > > But I wonder, why are you asking about these patent and/or > copyrighy > > >> > > infringement issues? To me, at first, it was like you are > planning to > > >> > > release a derivative of Hugin yourself, but apparently I was wrong > > >> > > (which is good). 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