John just told us about another annoyance that I, while adding manually
my control points, see all the time. I put the text in bold, in his first
paragraph below.
   I even tried, in vain, to immobilize the mouse -- with both hands! --
before releasing the button to create a CP, however the carefully chosen
position moves and then I have to use the arrow keys to reposition it where
intended. I think the movement is always to the right, maybe a little up,
and it seems to be by a fixed amount.


> Em qua., 2 de fev. de 2022 às 14:19, johnfi...@gmail.com <
johnfine2...@gmail.com> escreveu:

>
>
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:38:37 AM UTC-5 T. Modes wrote:
>
>> bruno...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 1. Februar 2022 um 23:20:14
>> UTC+1:
>>
>>> On investigation, it looks like the magnifier doesn't appear when you
>>> click down on a control point, it only appears once you have dragged it
>>> away from the original location, then when you let go it vanishes after a
>>> couple of seconds.
>>>
>> This is not reproducible here. The magnifier appears when only clicking
>> on the cp.  (and also when dragging)
>>
>
> Yesterday, I was seeing the behavior Bruno described.  I don't have a
> steady enough hand, so usually when I clicked, I accidentally dragged, but
> sometimes I just clicked and got no magnifier.
> But I can't reproduce it today (as I tried to prepare to comment on what
> you just wrote) and I can't think of anything that could have changed.  I
> think a few of these times I clicked carefully enough to not drag.  But I
> can't be sure.  I almost never can release the mouse carefully enough to
> not drag.  *The displayed x,y coordinates change on release *and so far
> as I understand, there isn't a way to know after just clicking whether the
> point has moved slightly.
>
>>
>>
>> Just some more remarks:
>> The logic implemented in the cp tab is already very complex to handle all
>> use case - there are many possible user interactions, many have been
>> improved in the last years. So doing changes based on a feeling can be very
>> dangerous and has the possibility to break other interactions with the tab.
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure I can retain the exact current behavior for the default
> value of new pref items.  I will need to make changes very slowly and
> carefully with a lot of research into current behavior.  But I can do that.
>
> I don't believe the current behavior is very close to the intended
> behavior when coded.  In most cases I see, the magnifiers stay
> indefinitely.  From what you said as well as from what I would guess by
> looking at the code, that is not intended behavior.  For my own use, that
> probably unintended  behavior is necessary for me to be able to use the
> tool at all and the apparently (to me) random situations in which the
> intended behavior occurs are a massive inconvenience.
>
> Still in changing the code, this would be one of the uncommon (as compared
> to other work I've done) cases in which maintaining the default of behavior
> I'll never understand would be easier than fixing that behavior.
>
>>
>> Also in the last years with the improvements of the automatic cp
>> detectors I'm using the cp tab to less and less amount. So the necessarity
>> for bigger improvments is very low for me.
>>
>> Maybe there is more I need to learn about using the automatic detectors.
> But so far, I've never been able to construct a decent panorama without
> removing many automatically created cp's and adding several new ones.
>
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